no map?, thats not good....

[Scarhunter]

I tried the demo, and i noticed there isn't a map screen, to know where you are in the place, also i got frustrated with the game as, I kept dying mainly cos of not being able to see around me quicker, things come up behind you, you hear them, I don't think I'm not going to enjoy this game, not saying others won't but, i got fustrated the second time i died from stupid bats flying at my head, can't hit them very easily, I didn't see them coming or heard them for that matter.
It looks good as in graphics. would be better with a map screen(even a mini-map)
Good Luck with the success of the game anyway,
Thanks Scarhunter

sorry, i put this in the wrong place, I should have put it in the demo discussion, my mistake...

[Vampire_X]

yeah no map is wierd prolly add one in final version i didnt like it at first but you get use to it quick and its real good just some things bother me but there fixing alot of stuff.

and yeah the bats are stupid i'd just remove them you cant even kill them or hit them.

well i think i hit one of them once but there so annoying.

[Narserke]

I have killed bats before, it's just REALLY annoying to do, with a sword anyway. that's when having a ranged ability like archery or spells comes in handy..outside you can't kill them unless you are quick because they immediately fly away, and if you chase them, you'll eventually run into something worse.

[Vampire_X]

but its pretty funny because it was daylight and the bats still attack you bats dont come out in the day lol **** things i hate em they need to be closer to the ground like your stomach area so you can slash em.

[Narserke]

Well to be fair, real bats don't come out in the day usually, but fake game bats from a fantasy would can come out whenever they want too..i mean real bats don't generally travel in packs attacking people then running away..you have to wait till they are over head if and jump and slash, they usually only take one hit to kill..pretty weak, so they fly to compensate..and real bats also don't fly at stomach level just like they don't fly in the day;)

[Mythor]

If you desperately want to wreak terrible vengeance upon the bats, run away from them till they catch up and are right behind you, then do a back somersault and attack in midair. You'll almost always hit them and will generally kill them. :)
Not really worth the trouble, but it is kinda satisfying. ;)

[Runeblade]

I've killed the bats without too much trouble. Once you see one coming is the time to start swinging and sidestepping. Bats fly right into your blades most times. No biggie.

The map isn't in the demo and will be in the full game. Lots of stuff doesn't work in the demo. hehe..

[Clickboy]

Here is the proof of it too ;)
My screenshot is from demo, which plaged with the pink border bug at the moment :mad:

[NecroViolator]

Just BACKFLIP and Attack in mid air. You will kill at least one or all in one beautiful backflip.

[Torrac]

Pushing the "M" doesn't do anything. Probably disabled in the demo or wasn't a finished item.

Bats in real life also don't have 5-7 foot wingspans.

Another thing that would be nice, especially outside, would be a compass or some other kind of heading indicator. I find it really easy to get turned around during a fight with multiple enemies like wolves. When the fight is over, I've found myself putting a few minutes going back down the path in the wrong direction. This is in the area over the top of the mountains.

[Brainsic]

I dont think there are 6 foot tall spiders in real life either,well or goblins or trolls. Cant the fantasy bats have their fantasy too? :)

[Vampire_X]

well if its real world enemies they gotta make it more realistic but i dont care i just run away from the bats not worth my time hard to kill and dont give hardly any exp.

[Narserke]

The bats heard you say that, and when the game comes out they are going to swarm you:)

[mkreku]

I thought bats were really easy to kill.. using ranged weapons. One or two arrows in their general direction and they came flapping down like a wet towel on a naked, unsuspecting butt. *SMACK*

[Vampire_X]

i use melee weapons i wanted to play baseball ball with em but there too fast.

Oh well if the bastards swarm me guess gotta burn em with a fire spell :D

[Narserke]

you know what really pi5535 me off about the bats isn't how hard they are to kill, but that they always come up from behind, bite me, and then fly away really fast...cause they know that i will own them and their children if they tried to face me:) lol

[Tenka]

Hehe, I think its kinda cute how they have a few 'annoying' monsters like that .. You can be the toughest guy in the deep, you can take a minotaur on single handedly, but you still cant catch up to those **** bats..

[Narserke]

yes that is nice in a way i suppose...but they usually run off into the woods, and once i chased them and ran into goblins..i smell a conspiracy a foot..those bats are little wh0res who will bait me for any monster that pays them enough, and golbins must be freaking rich cause they always drop money;) and spells..going to miss that in the final release.

[Vampire_X]

unless there was a vampire character in dungeon lords i'd fly right up to them and rip there wings off and stab them in the stomach with a small dagger and let them suffer before they die then i'd burn them.

yep hate them that much :)

[Narserke]

why would the existence of a vampire character, and that would be freaking sweet, in dl prevent you from bringing upon these flying rats the most painful and violent of torturous deaths?

[Runeblade]

yes that is nice in a way i suppose...but they usually run off into the woods, and once i chased them and ran into goblins..i smell a conspiracy a foot..those bats are little wh0res who will bait me for any monster that pays them enough, and golbins must be freaking rich cause they always drop money;) and spells..going to miss that in the final release.

Speaking of the rich goblins dropping money part. I hope they don't drop so much stuff in the final game. It seemed a bit overkill on the loot to me.

[Narserke]

Speaking of the rich goblins dropping money part. I hope they don't drop so much stuff in the final game. It seemed a bit overkill on the loot to me.

I believe chuk22 has said that they won't drop as much, at least they won't be dropping spells anymore..they should drop there shields and weapons, i mean that just makes sense, it's realistic. i hate when i fight a character in an rpg that has a really nice sword or cool armor and they don't drop it. That's mine, I killed them, I earned it;) LOL Looting is part of the fun, but yes they shouldn't be a loot foutain..that was just for the demo.

[Vampire_X]

I also hate when i fight a powerful monster or enemy and they drop nothing or just a few coins and crap makes me so mad i want something GOOD.

Every enemy we kill in the game should drop stuff every time i hate games where they limit it so much 95% of the time enemies dont drop anything thats boring.

At least drop some gold and potions and the weapons they carry of course getting there weapon or shield will be rare but they should always drop potions and gold not every enemy dropping potions cause then you would have ALOT of potions but you know what i mean :)

[onewolf]

i thought skeletons dropping potions was a little odd...

[Narserke]

i thought skeletons dropping potions was a little odd...


those skeletons have killer artheritis..and they have to heal too;) seriously, they should probably just drop whatever weapon they used against you and maybe their helm if they have one..and according to chuk22 you'll get katals from them for nether spells, or at least that was mentioned somewhere. things like spiders could drop gold and potions, you could argue that they ate another poor adventurer whole, items and all..they big enough..it really sucked when the end boss in the demo, the big thing, didn't drop anything, fine for the demo, but when i kick it's *** in the release, i should at least get gold or a ring or something.

onewolf, remember in neverwinter, when all the bosses you fought would never drop the weapon they were holding, the obviously nice weapon, at least they never did with me..one of the pirate captians had a descent sword he never dropped..let's hope that at least bosses in this game drop everything they are carrying...looting them is half the fun of killing them..

[onewolf]

yeah i remember being like "mmmm......glowing....." but the drop would be something apparently unrelated to what the dude was actually wearing.

[Narserke]

yeah i remember being like "mmmm......glowing....." but the drop would be something apparently unrelated to what the dude was actually wearing.

if i remember correctly, it was only one of the pirate captains that drops his weapon and armor..and the hands of Morag dropped their weapons..but other then that..i mean i wanted that nice glowing long sword..

but anyway, this game seems to drop things better then neverwinter did period..i didn't feel too cheated by the demo..not at the level of the game taht i was..but since i know the chest drop randomly, i'll be a little concerned until i start seeing that the drops are random, but descent for the chest...unlike neverwinter that game me pointless healing potions and gold or potions..too many crates..people if you think this game is crate happy, try neverwinter:)

[Scarhunter]

I like nwn, I play on a Scarred Lands(World of Scarn)action server on there. I will get DL when it is released, maybe not the day it's released but soon after, I'm also wait for D&D Dragonshard RTS/RPG < this isn't advertising for either of those> I just like trying games out, at least to see how well made the game is. heh, I bought a game on the old C64 computer called Goonies 2, (was more like an adventure cross of donkey kong and aztec(no donkey kong though) but was soooo boring, I paid 14.99 for it in 1990, was a lot for a cheap a--ed game. But now i shut up and stop rambling :lol:

[Vampire_X]

i think every enemy should always drop something valuable and good its the least the **** thing can do for all are hard work lol.

[vesselle]

Here is the proof of it too ;)
My screenshot is from demo, which plaged with the pink border bug at the moment :mad:

:) i'm sure you've discovered exactly why you have that pink border by now. anytime you try to change the default settings in the demo (gamma, etc) you'll get that. the settings weren't meant to be used in the demo. ;)

[Zebulon]

....weapon they used against you and maybe their helm if they have one..and according to chuk22 you'll get katals from them for nether spells, or at least that was mentioned somewhere. things like spiders could drop gold and potions, you could argue that they ate another poor adventurer whole, items and all..they big enough..it really sucked when the end boss in the demo, the big thing, didn't drop anything, fine for the demo, but when i kick it's *** in the release, i should at least get gold or a ring or something.

And dont forget the bone dust !!!This is important! Hehe

[/QUOTE]....looting them is half the fun of killing them..[/QUOTE]

call me a materialistic, but IMHO its 90%

Zeb

[Narserke]

well looting is only half for me because killing them is very satisfying, especially if they take a frew tries..and i had to push myself and really move around to kill them..

[Vampire_X]

Here is the proof of it too ;)
My screenshot is from demo, which plaged with the pink border bug at the moment :mad:

am i the only one that noticed that it looks like the character has a big log of crap comming out of his *** i know its a tail but look at it closely haha.

[Beelzebubb]

Well loot is fun and all but I think economics should be kept in mind. If theres ever a moment in the game where money has no use or you dont pick up a Doomsayer Sword +100 because you already have three of them.... Well, then something is wrong.

Personaly I find RPGs that make you 'live in poverty' sort of intersting. I hope, though, that theres some balance to DL.

[dzur13]

Delete this thread IMMEDIATELY!

I thought this thread was about whether or not there was a map in the game, but except for two or three threads referencing the map, it continues on and on about how some MORON was unable to kill bats.

[Scarhunter]

This was about my observation that there didn't seem to be a map, and that i didn't like not being able to hit the bats. But i haven't posted much since i mentioned it. I didn't intend it to be about the bats, but that's what ended up being the topic, sorry.

[dzur13]

Hey, I didn't mean to be a smart ***. Sorry about that.

Well the game is out and was wondering if you got it yet?