Counting Down the Minutes

[Boog7]

Well I'm ready to play any time now.. Ah well, guess I'll have to wait a bit longer before I get to escape RL.

In the mean time, I have a little twisted philosophy for your craniums..its not exactly cheery so if glum reality isn't your cup of tea I suggest you don't read anymore..

**** Nature
Uncovering the truth about human character and the lengths we'll go to advance civilization is a dark path for anyones conciousness. It leads down a road of truths that won't set you free. Quite the contrary, it can imprison you. The awareness of the many deceptions we and our ancestors have imposed upon ourselves can be very difficult to bear. Coming to understand that religion, optimism, faith, hope, god , heaven, **** are all man made for the purpose of giving the slave/working class meaning to their lives can be too much to take. The fact that the greediest, most corrupt and power hungry humans rule the world and that they also cunningly preach morality, goodness and human values to attain their positions is even more unsettling.

In the end however, we've noone to blame but nature itself. Nature created us just as it did millions of other life forms. Just another multi celled organism with a strong survival instinct and the need to feed on other life. Cursed with an evolving self conciousnessness and the inability to consistently exercise moderation or morality. Plunging down a road of global competitiveness until we consume ourselves. Perhaps the only lifeform that will have been responsible for its own demise. Yesiree, it can be a real brainburner coping with the stupidity and insignificance of it all.

So come on already,,,get the game out!

[araczynski]

yup, more or less right, although i would add that these (non controlling) massess are typically too opiated with the poisoned fruits of said civilization to grasp the reality, which is that the only thing they yearn for is not awarenss or real conciousness, but instead, only a bigger dallop of vaseline...

[Boog7]

Lol yeah, but I actually envy people that live in the shroud of ignorance or self servance...its really the only way to enjoy the experience IMO.

[CraigBee]

I spend my time counting down the minutes by calling EBGames and Best Buy to see if they have it in stock yet!

[berserk78]

Why did I open a thread that seemed to concern the release date of the game, to find one person's philosophy on life? It was quite an intellectual feat to compose that exercise in circular logic and baseless reasoning. And the fact that you're waiting for a game to come out and improve your life somehow (or at least entertain you) doesn't exactly suggest a person willing to experience life, much less someone qualified to comment accurately upon it. At the very least, since you're suggesting it as "a road of truths" and a "brainburner," you could have at least made an effort to correct your spelling, punctuation, and verbiage.

I came to this thread expecting news on a release date. Instead, I found an exercise in frivolous pseudo-intellectualism. I chose to read the message, and now I'm choosing to post, just as you did. You put this in a public forum, so here's a public response. I'm neither upset, nor flaming you. Just think of me as a well-intentioned, helpful editor.

If you're going to smugly criticize the world while toting a wholly undeserved air of intellectual superiority, consider learning how to spell words like, "consciousness." Arguments tend to lose substance when you misspell a word crucial to your theory, twice. Also, consider hyphens, commas, and apostrophes: You've given up on civilization, but you can still discover the wonderful world of punctuation! Perhaps you should turn the games off for 10 minutes and reacquaint yourself with some grade-school English textbooks. Your outlook doesn't exactly suggest a social person, but Mr. Dictionary won't ever judge you, nor be as mean as our doomed civilization.

Let's move on to the substance of your letter. The concepts you mentioned, "religion, optimism, faith, hope, god, heaven" have all occurred in nearly every human culture since we became sentient. That includes prehistoric clans of hunter-gatherers, and at least two current rain forest tribes which have no leaders, and no contact with outside civilizations: they lead an entirely cooperative existence. There are no chiefs, no priests, no warrior class, yet they all worship ancestor spirits. So which men invented those concepts in those instances, when there is no slave/worker class? Enlighten me. Share the proof of all your theories, your readers will applaud that.

I'd suggest a more sincere, potent conclusion to your argument. Seize those truths you've discovered; practice what you preach. You have proven to yourself that there's no god, no heaven, no faith, not even any optimism. You have proven to yourself that society is corrupt, that it is doomed and corrupt. You are an enlightened mote of insignificance, afloat in a sea of stupidity and ignorance. In two scant paragraphs, you mentioned being imprisoned, and going down a dark path three times. That was a nice redundancy of the path/road analogy, by the way: I believe that all your repeated viewings of the Star Wars movies and trailers have paid off, as you have clearly evinced total comprehension of "the path to the Dark Side." In fact, after your letter, we all get it, Darth Winner. In the same two paragraphs, you repeatedly mentioned how it is all "very difficult to bear," "too much to take," "unsettling," and "cursed." You recognize these truths, and you have the unique edge of being completely confident that there is no afterlife, nor even anything to look forward to in this life. Follow through with this logic. Why wait around for old age and infirmity? I believe that you can intellectually transcend that survival instinct; self-consumption is, as you say, inevitable. Why not give it a helping hand?

After all, it's one thing to offer all this as a "road of truths." Put your money where your mouth is, as the saying goes. Prove it to us. I invite everyone who agrees whole-heartedly with you to follow suit. If you can't do it, then clearly you don't really believe what you're saying. In which case, you really shouldn't be wasting our collective time here, by spouting doomsayer philosophies which even you don't believe. If you do put it to the test, bon voyage!

Either way, I look forward to not hearing from you again.





Well I'm ready to play any time now.. Ah well, guess I'll have to wait a bit longer before I get to escape RL.

In the mean time, I have a little twisted philosophy for your craniums..its not exactly cheery so if glum reality isn't your cup of tea I suggest you don't read anymore..

**** Nature
Uncovering the truth about human character and the lengths we'll go to advance civilization is a dark path for anyones conciousness. It leads down a road of truths that won't set you free. Quite the contrary, it can imprison you. The awareness of the many deceptions we and our ancestors have imposed upon ourselves can be very difficult to bear. Coming to understand that religion, optimism, faith, hope, god, heaven, **** are all man made for the purpose of giving the slave/working class meaning to their lives can be too much to take. The fact that the greediest, most corrupt and power hungry humans rule the world and that they also cunningly preach morality, goodness and human values to attain their positions is even more unsettling.

In the end however, we've noone to blame but nature itself. Nature created us just as it did millions of other life forms. Just another multi celled organism with a strong survival instinct and the need to feed on other life. Cursed with an evolving self conciousnessness and the inability to consistently exercise moderation or morality. Plunging down a road of global competitiveness until we consume ourselves. Perhaps the only lifeform that will have been responsible for its own demise. Yesiree, it can be a real brainburner coping with the stupidity and insignificance of it all.

So come on already,,,get the game out!

[Boog7]

Ahh thats more like it.... This should help eat up the final hours to release which was really my intent all along.
Darth Winner?
Lol no biggie, I don't need perfection in literature to get the point. Also, I think you'll see there's a warning at the start of my post indicating it had nothing to do with the release date but actually contained 'a persons philosophy of life'. Obviously, your interest was peaked until my blatantly inept philosophy made you feel offended to the point of drafting an eloquent, near perfectly worded response. Shame Shame..Which I thank you for, by the way. I think you actually enjoyed putting me in my place.
As to me being "smug" and having "an air of superiority" lol thats gotta be the dumbest thing I've heard given my outlook. Theres not much superiority for a person who sees problems he can only stew about it. Even worse, can't find better solutions to. I guess a part of me figures if I throw my perspective out there, someone might come along and enlighten me. That someone wasn't you by the way..Lol and
I'm niether upset, nor flaming you.
And like you suggested, I could have backed up my conclusions with a ton of facts and examples but pfft, that would take too long and I didn't want to bore people with a long winded essay. People with enough life experience and a scientific approach know where I'm coming from. You did make a good point about half nude savages and their belief in deities. Not quite what I'd call a civilization but still in their case, I'd have to conclude it's born out of ignorance and fear of the unknown. Unlike advanced civilizations that went on to use the falacy as a tool.
Hmm afterlife, I can't see how any educated person can still believe in this concept. After all the knowledge proving that conciousness is directly connected to the brain. And the fact that when that brain is traumatized, lets say with a sledge hammer, that person and his concious thought is reduced to village idiot status. Magically however some people believe that when this person dies, he's restored to his former high intellect or maybe he's doomed to an eternity as an idiot in heaven or **** because it's gods will?...Lol...No I'm afraid when we die our brain turns to inactive dust which more or less equates to oblivion..but no biggie, you won't know you're there. While we're at it lets talk about reincarnation..Theres a good one..I have a burning question here..How is it that the millions of people who populated the world, thousands of years ago, managed to get reincarnated into the billions today? Must of be exponential reincarnation i guess.
So yeah, I find life to be a ridiculous insignificant exercise but I also concede,it has its fun moments. To enjoy them, I just turn off grim reality whereas you I'm assuming cling to fantasyland. Whatever works...

[phalzyr]

I have to agree with boog7's philosophy myself, especially about using proper gramer :). Though I hope their is something of an afterlife... Religion is just an instrument of controlling the masses, with anything to believe in they would put up with the power hungry greedy people running their country. without such devises to distract people the world would be chaos, so religion and such does have its uses.... I'd really hate to live in a world without religions even though I believe in none of them...

[Boog7]

Well said Phalzyr,,,and not because of the parts we agree on..Lol. I don't know why, but I've always found this subject fascinating, especially the rationale for peoples beliefs..

[Tenka]

lol nice comeback at berserk, boog7..

I personally agree with boog7's philosphy and yet (somewhat stereotypically) believe that people should change to respect the truth rather than ignore. It is indeed true that people can enjoy life better in ignorance of pain but in most cases, usually unseen, the ignorance is actually causing the pain. While not everyone may be up to it willingly or even mentally, suppose that it was possible and perhaps the world would revolve around understanding rather than ignorance. A fantasy I suppose, but it might just work if 'ignorance' was socially rejected, after all human beings are 'pack animals' and we absorb the nature of the environment we live in.

[Boog7]

A fantasy I suppose, but it might just work if 'ignorance' was socially rejected, after all human beings are 'pack animals' and we absorb the nature of the environment we live in.

Yep. a fantasy for mainly one reason.....Propaganda. The foulest most insidious and destructive weopon in the human arsenal. Almost impossible to combat, considering it takes its toll at an early age.
Heh..sorry for being so grim but I couldn't think of a gentler way to say it.