PK jump

[Georgi_avramov]

OK, I really need some advises about how to make PK jump. I play this game for at least 5 months and I still cannot make this stupid PK jump. PLS someone help me. Tell me how to do this jump and can it be done with 40fps or I need a lot more

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

Georgi, it works even with lower FPS-values, but indeed the higher the better, so it's good when You're getting at least 40 FPS constantly...

You surely know that some objects support PK-Jump (usually those what You can grab and pull with the Killer): carts on "Town", neons on "Train Station", the big hooks on "Abandoned Factory", and even the coffins (destroyable) and dead bodies of the enemies... What You have to do? Well, You must stand onto an object what supports the PK-Jump. Then start shooting it quickly with the Killer and keep jumping at the same time. While You're in the air, the object will push You higher and higher when You pull it towards You - that's the physics of the jump (and it works even when You're standing on the ground: a pulled object pushes Daniel away). When You're enough high, You can jump away from the object to the desired direction (into a Secret for instance), and don't forget that You can change Daniel's trajectory while He is in the air... I recommend You to start practicing on "Town" and "Train Station", because carts and neons support PK-Jump extremly well. You can also do some practicing on "Dead City" from BOOH: the burned cars are also extremly good for PK-Jumps...

Also, watch my E2-video (in my signature) if You haven't seen that and if You want: it contains many PK-jumps from various places, so maybe it will become more eaiser for You to understand that jump-method...

[Artas1984]

OK, I really need some advises about how to make PK jump. I play this game for at least 5 months and I still cannot make this stupid PK jump. PLS someone help me. Tell me how to do this jump and can it be done with 40fps or I need a lot more



Hi George!
You don't need more FPS.
My Abandoned Factory painkillerjumping was made with 30 FPS, and look where a've managed to get (pictures with 60 & 62 FPS)http://dreamcatcherinteractive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24694


Check K's Asylum for detail information about jumping in painkiller.
All you really need is something like an object on which you can "pop - up".
Painkillerjump is an easy technique comaring to bladesurfing.

[Georgi_avramov]

Thank You, both of You I will try it today and I hope I will manage to make the jump

[Cynical]

Another method that's not mentioned:

1. Find barrel.
2. Blow said barrel up near ledge you need to get to
3. Find the largest piece of debris it creates (normally the circular top or bottom)
4. Walk over that piece, in the direction of the ledge, facing straight down, and when your crosshair goes over it, right-click.
5. Go flying.

[T'krau]

It also seems to help if you keep your fingers OFF the WASD keys while jumping (helps keep you centered...).

[Tyranor]

I would like to know if there is a way of making the PK jump easier to do, for example by binding a single key to this jump. Because I really find it hard to do, and I haven't managed once to PK jump and get to a goodie. For instance, I have been trying to get an item in the train station level, only to find out how goddamn' frustrating it is. If I use the PK on a neon light, it flies off around the room, but not where I want it to be. If I can position it correcty, it starts to move as soon as you try to even just stand on it. And to top it off, I can't quickly use the "tractor beam" in short bursts when I try to jump from it, it always falls to the ground after one single hit.

Isn't there an easier way to do this ?

[T'krau]

Isn't there an easier way to do this ?
Uh, actually, no. PK jumping has to be the single hardest skill to learn in the game (besides staying alive...). I'm STILL not particularly good at it.

[ScOoBz0r]

OK, I really need some advises about how to make PK jump. I play this game for at least 5 months and I still cannot make this stupid PK jump. PLS someone help me. Tell me how to do this jump and can it be done with 40fps or I need a lot more

Is it just me? You are talking about ''this jump'' .. wich jump is that bunnyhopping (Like hold forward button and then jump? very hard 0_o..), trickjumping??, and are you talking about single- or multiplayer? And what you mean with 40 fps: when you are recording? or just walking and jumping in a map, because that last thing should be 125 fps ;).

[Varus77]

PK jump = jumping with the Painkiller weapon

more FPS > better, easier jumping at all

[Artas1984]

Is it just me? You are talking about ''this jump'' .. wich jump is that bunnyhopping (Like hold forward button and then jump? very hard 0_o..), trickjumping??, and are you talking about single- or multiplayer? And what you mean with 40 fps: when you are recording? or just walking and jumping in a map, because that last thing should be 125 fps ;).

Man...ha ha ha...

Scoobzor came from MP world where he knows all sort of rocket-jumps, but now there is a problm...ups - what the heck is PK-JUMP! LOL

Well, scoobylol there are 2 worlds of painkiller: multiplayer world and singleplayer world, but don't you say that you do not know what is a painkillerjump!?

You realy?!!!

[PeTjA]

@ScOoBz0r:
Congrats for U beeing 2.placed at the tTw-Cup and greetings and congrats to AgamemnonZ too for beeing the 1.placed.:)
Finally it looks like a n!-Cup to me.:D http://digilander.libero.it/crazy87dd/tTw-PK-Cup/ttw.htm

About PK-jumping:
This question allready confused me, was that guy talking about bunnyhopping with the painkiller? That cant be true. Because its not so hard to do, isnt it?:p
So i guess he was talking about Objectsurfing, (Bodysurfing), Texturesurfing. Like Cyody showed it in his awsome SP-videos. And this is hard to do, isnt it?
:cool:

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

Scoobzor, if You really don't know what PK-Jump is (if You haven't played SP or You've never tried grabbing Secrets, then it can be true), then watch my Experience #2 (http://tombraider.central-game.net/sys/painkiller/sys_experience2-high.wmv) video: that SP-trickvideo shows You plently of insane PK-Jumps... ;) Also, Artas can offer You some of His videos, what also contain some very insane PK-Jumps... :D

Since I played both SP and MP, I can tell You that PK-Jump is only in SP and it's much harder to perform than RocketJump in MP (it depends though, because there are insance RJs too, especially those what are combined with grenades or when You RJ from walls, and so on). RocketJump is a sure thing, but PK-Jump is something what You can't handle that easily like RJ in MP. That's why 99% os the SP-Players simply hate PK-Jump and search for other things to grab a Secret or reach a place somewhere. Momently I think only Artas and me are the players who enjoy and love PK-Jump. :D Anyway, PK-Jump can take You much higher in SP than RocketJump in MP...

[PeTjA]

PK-Jump can take You much higher in SP than RocketJump in MP...
(Im just talking about myself): I dont think so.
Keep in mind that SP have a complete different physic than MP! Example: in 1.35 Barreljumps worked (with the old netcode) verry well. But now after 1.5 they dont!:(
(If SP would have this piece of s+it ((of physic from MP)), U would not going into the air).
What do U think about that?:confused:

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

Umm, yes..You're right PeTjA: I totally forgot about using a jumppad for a RocketJump! That can take You **** high! *shocked* :) However actually there's no heights-limit with PK-Jump: if You can stand on the object (especially on a big object like the big cross in "Old Monastery") and keep pulling it and jumping on it, then You can go up unlimitedly. I remember once Artas showed us the highest PK-Jump ever, and that was really-really high, I've never seen such high jump before, nor in SP neither in MP...

[PeTjA]

Sadly Artas didnt showed it to my. So i missed that show. And also i missed alot of his videos (silly me). Anyway thx SYS that U enlighted me. But unlimited hight?
Have U ever managed the 1-jump to the big bridge in Cursed?

GrenadeRocketjumpJumpadCombo!:eek: (from the jumppad near the driver) ;)

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

Hey PeTjA, I remember You once mentioned that famous jump - it was done by a guy with version 1.3, if my memory serves me. It surely was amazing to see, and it also was damned hard to do it, I'm sure about it! * thumbs up *

Well, here's Artas' highest PK-Jump (http://tombraider.central-game.net/sys/painkiller/artas1984/Artas1984officialOldMonasterypainkillerj.avi) on "Old Monastery", with the big cross: as You can see, He went up really high, and if He could stay on the cross then He would go up even higher. Actually there's no heights-limit with PK-Jump, it depends on how long You can stand on the object, but You can keep jumping and shooting it as long as You can/want... :)

[PeTjA]

I just downloaded Artas video (de ja vue) & remembered it. Yes and Ur right the hight will be unlimited (limited only by a limit in the *.mpk).:rolleyes:

About the MP combo: This jump was showed my by a player called Dread´s in 1.35 with the old netcode (on a online server).:eek:
But (with 40 ping) on the DCAG server i managed the insane combojump in Cursed 1x and did it in 1.64. :cool:
It was just me on the server. :(

[T'krau]

That's why 99% os the SP-Players simply hate PK-Jump and search for other things to grab a Secret or reach a place somewhere.
That's why I started trying to climb things.

[lanshih]

has anyboy jumped here and how?


http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3826/tryjump15ci.th.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tryjump15ci.jpg)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8716/tryjump29wd.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tryjump29wd.jpg)

[PeTjA]

has anyboy jumped here and how?
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3826/tryjump15ci.th.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tryjump15ci.jpg)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8716/tryjump29wd.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tryjump29wd.jpg)


U have problems with rocketjumps?:(

The DM_Fallen1 jump into the Pentagram (and the DM_Fallen2 jump into the GoldenArmor (GA)) can be done by simple RocketJumps (RJ).:rolleyes:
Also the jump to the ladder (the only ladder in MP! and in DM_Mine) can be done by RJ or GrenadeJump (GJ).:eek:

How to RJ or GJ or HJ (HeaterBombJump):
Look down and shoot+jump and look up into the direction U want to fly.:)

[lanshih]

hei!

i got it in mine! but in fallen seems to be a bit far away... a bit more of practising, perhaps :P

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6407/rkmine3qq.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rkmine3qq.jpg)

[PeTjA]

DM_Fallen1/2 need speed and RJ.:p Thats a good RJ training for ingame MP.
DM_Mine can be done only by RJ.

[lanshih]

[QUOTE=PeTjA]
Thats why U dont get the Pentagram in DM_Fallen1!!!!
Because its verry needed to bunnyhop and have alot of speed.QUOTE]

ok! now i got it.
i've been finally doing it that way, bunnyhope+rocketjump, and i found those jumps espectacular! still i got to manage the direction during the flight. :p

[ScOoBz0r]

Ok, thnx for explaining to the scoob ;). Ofcourse I already knew that jump, but I didn't know you guys called it the ''pk-jump'' ;). About that reply: how to get there @ dm_fallen, Petja told u already so ;). And thnx for the congrats petja.

Gl with the jumpz0rs.

[PeTjA]

Im happy that AgamemnonZ and U are managed to play a PK Duel:D (U never did this before ((joke)).;)
Split the money (45/45).:rolleyes:
The promised trickjumpvideo?:)