Here's Something To Do...

[BungBo]

George had mentioned earlier that he had attempted to use the German 1.4 patch with the English 1.3 version but couldn't get it to work.

Well... I have. Here's what to do.

I started with a fresh install. Patched to version 1.3. Downloaded German 1.3 to 1.4 patch. Installed it. Make sure it installs to the correct directory! Then go into your Dungeon Lords folder and then...

Rename the file textpak.000 to gtextpak.000

And then...

Rename the file npcdata.pak to gnpcdata.pak

Start the game.

You will now be patched to version 1.4. However the main menu will be in German as well as the character customization menu and your inventory menu once you're in the game. The actual dialogue windows are still in English so you'll be able to get your quests and follow the storyline. I don't remember if the messenger at the beginning spoke. I just get the dialogue window and no speech at this point. I am presently in the Sewers below Fargrove and am having no problems. I need some veteran players to go through this and let us know what you think. I haven't played DL enough to tell you what spells and what not are working or not working. I'm gonna spend some more time trying to figure out how to get the menus back to English.

Please backup any important save files before messing around with this. Besides, if you want to check out the full character customization options, you'll need to start a new game anyway.

Please post your input and observations here. Please don't flame me. I'm very sensitive. ;)

Happy Holidays!

[Axell]

Why flame you? Very interesting finding you got there!
I'll give it a try. Thank you!

[GeorgeKeith]

Good Golly BungBo, That is a most unique way to get things going. THANKS

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Good Golly BungBo, That is a most unique way to get things going. THANKS

Looks like you'll get the English patch out before DreamCatcher does!

[Visigoth]

Freakin' amazing... does this work???

[chamr]

Have you tried this:
Before running the german 1.4 patch, copy off npcdata.pak and testpak.000. After you run 1.4, then copy back the original npcdata.pak and textpak.000 and add the 'g' in front like you mention above. Maybe that will bring back the english text in the menus and such...

[Crywolf]

good! you it decided one of our bigger problems! somebody has some ideia of mod for the game?

thanks very much :)

;p

[runescape101]

what do you mean by correct directory? also it sys tht the zip file for the pth i corrupt. third when i try to load the gme it says i have an error in the npcdata.pak file.

[runescape101]

first off srry for the bad spelling i was having pc problems. second i solved the corrupt file issue but i still cant use gnpcdata.pak. :mad:

[WARLOCK]

Works grate thx :cool:

[runescape101]

warlock how did u do it.

[runescape101]

i just got it 2 work. the problem was that i was still using the us link to start the game not the german 1. thus it couldnt read the "g" files.

[GeorgeKeith]

I did exactly as BungBo said. It works for me, but uh.... kinda difficult figuring out what some of the words are on items and menues. Looks like the biggest things new are character customization, identify, enemies showing up on map as red dots, less time to open chests and pick locks, etc.

I would much rather have the English 1.4 :confused: :( :rolleyes:

Oh, by the way, now there's no spoken words, just dialogue options and subtitling.

[BungBo]

George, it's just the beginning. What would you wager that we can get this thing working in English faster than we can get an English patch from DC? Well, that's my game now. At least I know now that my half hour of work cracking this bad pupppy has paid off, thanks to you. For your belated b'day present I am jazzed to figure out how to get those menus in English! My thought is that the English, German and French are embedded otherwise the dialogue windows would have also have been changed. Therefore, there has to be a config file that can be edited with a text program to turn off German and turn on English or if I so wish French, but let's not go there. :) I'm convinced that this has to be very simply, why else could I have figured out this much of the problem? Hey! Maybe DC will get scared and release the English patch early because they're afraid of what old BungBo might do, or maybe me and us will just go ahead and get this bad puppy up and running on our own. Because if I can get the German menus turned into English, I guarantee you I will use every neutron in my little brain to get that campfire sound and speech happening. Hey, I be working, who wants to join in? Ferncliff and others... please contribute to this post (if you get the same results) and help the less computer savvy just as you did for the dude stuck in the where-ever-it-was. Gotta sign off too many beers! Cheers people!

[BungBo]

Have you tried this:
Before running the german 1.4 patch, copy off npcdata.pak and testpak.000. After you run 1.4, then copy back the original npcdata.pak and textpak.000 and add the 'g' in front like you mention above. Maybe that will bring back the english text in the menus and such...

Yes, I did try that. If you look at the textpak.000 file you will see that it is all English. So the update isn't changing the existing text files but rather looking for the text file it is programmed to look for... i.e. gtext.pak000 (g meaning German) which is simply the file name of the German version. If I had installed the original DL German version of the game that file would be in German. In other words... The patch changed something from TRUE to FALSE because the menu options have always been in the game, regardless of language. Also I have tried reinstalling English 1.3 over German 1.4 with no luck. :o I'm becoming convinced that there is an embedded config that can be edited with a text editor and tomorrow morning (after I sober up :D ) I will rip this puppy apart looking for it, but for now I am very, very happy to know that I have confirmation from George (and probably others) that we have at least gotten to this point.

If DC builds it, it will break!

B^)...

[acemon0]

I have installed the 1.4 german patch. loaded a save And went to 6 differnt venders and i seen nothing new for sale. so eather i do have to start a new guy and see if something new shows up for sale. or thay didn't add much to the game or the fact i'm using a german patch on an english game might be conflicking the items and spell names and not accesing them

[Spuz]

I've had this game since its release, but I'd still rather wait for the official patch. When the official patch is released you'll have to uninstall and reinstall the game again and patch it again. It seems like a lot of hassle.

It's good for a nice sneak peek though.

[GeorgeKeith]

Nah, no hassle at all! All I have to do is sit on my "DONKEY" and wait for the uninstall and re-install to complete. Then use my notes to hex-edit a save to give my character all 43 skills, AND the moonstone, etc., before ever leaving Fargrove. "I'm a Baaaad boy!"

By the way, keyboard commands that didn't work in 1.3 (mentioned in manual and in the cheats.kbd file) are not in 1.4. I've a feeling that the German community has been fooled somewhat and the English 1.4 probably won't be much different.

[GeorgeKeith]

BungBo!!!

All speech files (Dungeon Lords\Speech) are named for English. For instance, in the directory \Speech\037-1622wav\ the files are for the messenger Simon at the start of the game at the wilderness campfire.

the files are set for English, for instance, EC000000_037.WAV is when Simon says "Hail Stranger"

Changing it to GC000000_037.WAV will play the speech with the German patch. Since there's hundreds (thousands?) of speech files, there must be something looking for GC and just change that to EC to allow all speech files to play. It would sure beat the dickens out of renaming hundreds upon hundreds of speech files.

[runescape101]

Oh, by the way, now there's no spoken words, just dialogue options and subtitling.
oh really i got spoken words (said in english 2 yipee)

[BungBo]

BungBo!!!

All speech files (Dungeon Lords\Speech) are named for English. For instance, in the directory \Speech\037-1622wav\ the files are for the messenger Simon at the start of the game at the wilderness campfire.

the files are set for English, for instance, EC000000_037.WAV is when Simon says "Hail Stranger"

Changing it to GC000000_037.WAV will play the speech with the German patch. Since there's hundreds (thousands?) of speech files, there must be something looking for GC and just change that to EC to allow all speech files to play. It would sure beat the dickens out of renaming hundreds upon hundreds of speech files.

:D Thanks for the info George! Good work, I will check it out.

I am also going to install G 1.4 to a seperate folder so I can see exactly what files the patch contains. Perhaps that will give some insights.

[GeorgeKeith]

There's just a bit over 1,200 speech files and some of the speech directories are empty, hmm.... There has to be something looking for GC********** rather than EC**********

[BungBo]

There are two files iname and giname that contain Item names in German and English. If you rename iname to giname and giname to iname, then the items in your inventory will be in English.

The menu language looks to be controlled by the file gd6string, unfortunately if you rename the English file d6string to gd6string you get a Deep 6 error message saying it can't find sys string #4650 when you start the game. So this problem will need some more thinking.

Yeah George you're right. I tried renaming the Messenger wav file and he talked. Now, as you've pointed out, how do we get all those ec files turned into gc files without a huge hassle? Hmm, more thinking to do.

[draxis]

i am currently renamingn all the Wav files if i had a place to up load teh ziped sound folder i would so everyone can just replace the folder

[draxis]

2 bad they used wav files instead of mp3 fils they could hav put this hame on 1 disk ziped up the speach folder is 213 megs

[Dogman]

you can upload here...

http://www.yousendit.com/

Send Large Files
Up to 1000MB (1GB).

[evilsky2]

i am currently renamingn all the Wav files if i had a place to up load teh ziped sound folder i would so everyone can just replace the folder
Try this http://www.azheavymetal.com/~lupasrename/lupasrename.php if you haven't finished already.

[GeorgeKeith]

If Draxis uploaded the file, where could it be downloaded from?

[mkolter]

It is easy to rename multiple files when you use DOS.

Click on Start.
Click on Run.
A little box should appear.
Type in cmd. Press Enter.
You should see a command prompt. Black Window.

type 'cd\' and press enter.
should give you a c:\ prompt now

type 'cd program files\dreamcatcher\dungeon lords\speech' and press enter.
should get you into the speech directory.

To rename the files from EC TO GC it is easy.
type 'ren EC*.wav GC*.wav' and press enter

Now type 'exit' to close the window. Your done.

[GeorgeKeith]

That only changes the files in the \Speech directory. It will not change anything in each of the wav directories. You have to change to each of those individual directories.

[draxis]

i got all the files renamed last night just need a place to upload the file for ALL to use the url dogman provided is just for sending emails of larg files to 1 person but to make things ezer ill make a batch file to chage names useing mkolters dos instructions that will make a mouch smaller download and not break the ULA

[BungBo]

Thanks Draxis, Dogman, evilsky2 and mkolter for all the sound file renaming help. :)

I have found out that the GD6STRING file can be edited with a hex editor to change the German menu items to English. That seems the most straight forward way to get the menus into English. I did a little with it like changing einzelspieler to single player in the main menu. I've managed to edit a bit of the main menu back into English and found out that it works and doesn't screw up the game. However, it's very important not to mess with the spacing of the file. In other words, don't delete or add spaces because that will shift everything by the amount of spaces you've added or deleted, so instead of looking at the main menu and seeing "Single Player" you could end up with "ngle Player Mu". The button will still work, but it just throws all the labeling off. I copied the English from the D6STRING file and used it to replace the German in the GD6STRING file and when I played DL ended up with some very weird results like instead of Exit Game at the bottom of the main menu it was just F. So I'll spend some more time editing the German to English which is fairly easy because I can just compare the 1.3 screens to the 1.4 and make notes.

Thanks to everybody who's contributing ideas and energy to this little project.

[draxis]

ok i have the Batch file wrote and it works great still need a place to upload this small 13k file for all to use

ps this will only work if u installed the game into the defalt folder

[InDoMiNaE]

Send it to me. I'll host it for you if you want.
indominae@indominae.com

Then I'll post the link here.

[draxis]

ok i sent u the file please post download location asap

the renaming is so fast its done in a blink of an eye if u wana check the directorys just go 2 the speach folder and look instead of running agin

[InDoMiNaE]

Here's the link.

http://www.indominae.com/files/DLspeakrename.bat

[BungBo]

Gosh I just spent the last half hour renaming the wav files using the LupasRename program that evilsky2 recommended, and that worked great. I've downloaded the batch file Draxis and Dominae have provided and will now go try it just for fun. I'll post again after and let you know how it went.

Thanks again all. :D

[draxis]

thanx InDoMiNaE for providing the upload space

if you are useing mozilla firefox just copy the text into notepad and save as rename.bat
and run
we should rename the thred to Dl self paching project

[InDoMiNaE]

Not a problem... you know... once we have this figured out I could probably make a setup program to install of these changes...

[draxis]

that would be great in fact all we are doing is renaming fils and moving them could probly do the whole thing wih a batch

[runescape101]

Not a problem... you know... once we have this figured out I could probably make a setup program to install of these changes...

No offense but your a nerd. you seem to think you know everything and have all of the answers and in the process of showing off your "skills" youve ruined my fun and just made yourelf look worse(in my eyes anyway im sure others may feel different because your always giving them the answer to all of their problems they may have.) Thank you and have a nice day. :p
GK READ OFF TOPIC THREADS

[BungBo]

Draxis, I uninstalled then reinstalled just so I could try your renaming batch file. Man! That is fast! It took me a couple seconds to realize that they were really all renamed. Freakin' great job! Thanks! Also thanks to Indominae for providing the space.

Yeah an unofficial English from German 1.4 fan patch would be cool. Maybe make a trial version without the English menus just to test it.

I'm presently taking screen shots of all the menus in English and German to help me with the translating. It's gonna be a bit of work, but should be worth it to make it easier to play. Plus, I just love the challenge. :D

Thanks again for all your input and help.

[runescape101]

George Keith when you see this look under off topic.

[GeorgeKeith]

Been there HEHEHEHEHEHE ;)

[chamr]

Yeah an unofficial English from German 1.4 fan patch would be cool. Maybe make a trial version without the English menus just to test it.


Heck, yeah! You guys rock!! (rune, cut back on your meds. or maybe increase them. something...) If they don't release the official english this coming week, I'm going with the fan-made-german-to-english version! :D

[runescape101]

Been there HEHEHEHEHEHE ;)

i know i just saw that you were viewing this page so i decided to give you the message.

[CKomet*]

i must say "hat up" :)

you make a good job :)

sadly i can't help you, because if got only the german version, but if i can do anything, then tell it, and i try to it :)

[mollly_red]

i must say "hat up" :)

you make a good job :)

sadly i can't help you, because if got only the german version, but if i can do anything, then tell it, and i try to it :)


well you could try to work on your english grammar ...

[CKomet*]

well you could try to work on your english grammar ...

da du ja deutsch verstehst, kann ich es ja auch so schreiben....

Du bist einfach nur ein großes Arschloch......

sorry at all others... but somtimes i can't say it in an other way....

[cyclops]

@CKomet

Don´t worry about this "molly-guy". Remember, what i told you about dogs on the streets - they´re pitiful creatures. Only able to bark and always in search for the next tree... :D

[GeorgeKeith]

I'm set up with English 1.3 with German 1.4. Several of my wave directories have no wav files in them. How does others installations compare to the following empty directories;

000-1622wav
002........
004........
020........
023........
033........
034........
039-042....
048........
049........
063........
079........
081-085....
089........
091........
094........
109........
116........
131........

[draxis]

whether there is anything in the dir or not domt rely matter the batch file will still work if the dir is empty then it just wont change anything

[oink]

whether there is anything in the dir or not domt rely matter the batch file will still work if the dir is empty then it just wont change anything

Hi, great job you are doing here!!

I don't know if it helps but you may be able to write the re-naming script a little shorter (or even type it on the command line). On WinXP something like this should be possible (if started in the speech dir):

ren .\EC*.wav GC*.wav
FOR /D %i IN (.\*-1622wav) DO ren %i\EC*.wav GC*.wav

I did not try so far but it should do about the same thing.

Keep on going.

[GeorgeKeith]

I know it doesn't matter if a directory is empty, I specifically asked if anyone else had empty directories, pertaining to possible game content to yet come.

By the way Draxis, I sent you a pm concearning the great idea of the batch file.

[BungBo]

George, I have the same empty folders. Probably there for files for NPCs that didn't make it into to the game or some such nonsense. I installed the German 1.4 patch to a lone folder so I could look at the contents and saw that it adds only one new speech file. It's in folder 103-1622wav and is file EC0004_103. Interesting how the one new speech file in the German patch has EC instead of GC. How does it play in the German version? Do they have to rename it GC0004_103? :eek:

I've finished translating the main menu and the options menu to English. I will start on the character creation menu next, but that'll have to wait for tomorrow.

Thanks again everybody!

[oink]

Hi, just another idea ... when you are on the command line in the DL directory you could do something like:

dir /A-D /S > DL_v13.txt

If you do this for the german version 1.3/1.4 and the english version 1.3 you could compare the resulting text files with a diff-tool to see what are the changed files between versions. This is not a big help if there are thousands of differences but it may be worth a try (if you didn't do that already).

Unfortunately i de-installed DL but your little fan project makes me feel like i want to re-install even without the real v1.4 patch ;)

[mollly_red]

da du ja deutsch verstehst, kann ich es ja auch so schreiben....

Du bist einfach nur ein großes Arschloch......

sorry at all others... but somtimes i can't say it in an other way....

Nimms dir nicht so zu Hertzen ist bloss Spaß, nichts persönliches ;)

[GeorgeKeith]

George, I have the same empty folders. Probably there for files for NPCs that didn't make it into to the game or some such nonsense. I installed the German 1.4 patch to a lone folder so I could look at the contents and saw that it adds only one new speech file. It's in folder 103-1622wav and is file EC0004_103. Interesting how the one new speech file in the German patch has EC instead of GC. How does it play in the German version? Do they have to rename it GC0004_103? :eek:

I've finished translating the main menu and the options menu to English. I will start on the character creation menu next, but that'll have to wait for tomorrow.

Thanks again everybody!


I haven't gotten to the part where that file is used, but I did rename it. I'm just in Arindale, about to enter the House of Lords. Started over with a new character.

By the way, someone published an item hex list for 1.3, but hardly any of them work for a German 1.4 save.

[BungBo]

By the way, someone published an item hex list for 1.3, but hardly any of them work for a German 1.4 save.

That might be because that any shift in a file will screw up the hex address. That shift might be caused by having new items in the game because of the patch. It only takes one extra space to screw up the hex addresses. Are you still able to edit your character stats?

[BungBo]

Hi, just another idea ... when you are on the command line in the DL directory you could do something like:

dir /A-D /S > DL_v13.txt

If you do this for the german version 1.3/1.4 and the english version 1.3 you could compare the resulting text files with a diff-tool to see what are the changed files between versions. This is not a big help if there are thousands of differences but it may be worth a try (if you didn't do that already).

Unfortunately i de-installed DL but your little fan project makes me feel like i want to re-install even without the real v1.4 patch ;)

Thanks Oink, I'll check out your suggestion tomorrow. It might be easier than comparing screen shots. Oh, my poor eyes! :eek:

[GeorgeKeith]

That might be because that any shift in a file will screw up the hex address. That shift might be caused by having new items in the game because of the patch. It only takes one extra space to screw up the hex addresses. Are you still able to edit your character stats?


Actually the items are still the same, just arranged differently in the save file. I was using the wrong occurrence of the item codes. Strange though, I replaced the Crystal of Life with the Nova Blast crystal and the NB showed up in a different item category. Also, I loaded up on Nova blast scrolls at the Archane Imporium in Fargrove. Now I feel much safer as I'm about to enter the Hall of Lords in Arindale.

And YES, everything including stats can be changed. I especially love the part where absolutely any character/class can have all 43 skills :)

[GeorgeKeith]

Bungbo;

I changed the startup menu to English, but the sub menues are a B. Once someone has everything in the gd6string file translated, make it available, PLEASE.

Bgaum posted today, essentially the same thing "we are still......" :confused:

[RunningStar]

Nimms dir nicht so zu Hertzen ist bloss Spaß, nichts persönliches ;)

Du solltest an deiner Rechtschreibung arbeiten...

Konstruktiv arbeiten kannst Du jedenfalls nicht. Immer nur zu schreiben, dass alles Mist ist, ist keine große Hilfe. Naja, Hauptsache Du hast Spaß dabei. Kaum zu glauben, dass jemand der absolut nichts an DL findet, soviel Zeit verschwendet, immer wieder das gleiche zu posten.

@GeorgeKeith
But a charakter, who can learn all skills, are very dull. This part, the development of the charakter are IMHO one of the strongest part of DL.

@at all
If you translate german -> english, some translation in the german version are wrong. For example: "disarm traps" translate in "Fallen entwaffnen". The correct translate is "Fallen entschärfen".

[mollly_red]

Du solltest an deiner Rechtschreibung arbeiten...

Konstruktiv arbeiten kannst Du jedenfalls nicht. Immer nur zu schreiben, dass alles Mist ist, ist keine große Hilfe. Naja, Hauptsache Du hast Spaß dabei. Kaum zu glauben, dass jemand der absolut nichts an DL findet, soviel Zeit verschwendet, immer wieder das gleiche zu posten.

@GeorgeKeith
But a charakter, who can learn all skills, are very dull. This part, the development of the charakter are IMHO one of the strongest part of DL.

@at all
If you translate german -> english, some translation in the german version are wrong. For example: "disarm traps" translate in "Fallen entwaffnen". The correct translate is "Fallen entschärfen".


Ich habs schlieslich gekauft irgendwie muss man jawohl n bisschen spass aus diesem mistspiel ziehen ;)

[BungBo]

Bungbo;

I changed the startup menu to English, but the sub menues are a B. Once someone has everything in the gd6string file translated, make it available, PLEASE.

Bgaum posted today, essentially the same thing "we are still......" :confused:

I'm working on the translation. I've just finished all the translations for all the Enter This, Leave That and such stuff. I'm about half way through the file now. I didn't bother translating the various error messages. Just focusing on the game play stuff. I took Oink's advice and decided to just put up the English and German files on the hex editor side by side and am just working my way down the file. Much easier than trying to do it with screen shots. And so far the two files match up perfectly. I've had to be a bit creative at times because sometimes the German is shorter than the English so, for example, instead of writing out "The Fool of Fortune," I had to make it "Da Fool of Fortune," because I can't add any extra spaces or everything goes out of alignment. So in the Character Creation menu you will see Streng instead of Strength, but I figure people will be able to understand it. ;)

Well back to da hex grind. I'll check in later and give you another update.

Oh and George, I will definitely let you test it once I get to the beta stage.

[BungBo]

Ok, things are moving along with the translation. The main menu and option menus are done. The character creation menu is mostly done. The inventory menus are about half done. All the Enter this and Leave that and such and such is closed is done. The end game gibberish is done. Hmm, that's about it for now. I'm not going to bother with the multi-player menus and the little tutorial you get when you first enter the game because it looks pretty labor intensive. I might add those later if the official patch continues to be delayed.

Still would really like to get that campfire at the beginning of the game to make some noise. :eek:

[mkolter]

Although I see much great progress and such dedication in several of you people. I think it is such a shame that the community is building a engish patch 1.4 and not the software vendor. No offense to anyone working on this project, I just think it is crap that we have to work on this ourselves. Keep it up, let me know if I can do anything to help. I am not sure how much time I can dedicate to this cause, but I will try. Let me know.

[Raedwald]

I have dl the rename batch file. Where should I run it in. I have tried a few times and get a cannot find location error. I have already patched to 1.4 German. Any help would be gratefull. And keep up your hard work on this project. :)

Raed

[GeorgeKeith]

You have to have the game installed to the default installation. The batch file is for the English installation. Use a text editor to look inside the batch file to see that the game directory is usually Program Files\Dreamcatcher\Dungeon Lords

[BungBo]

Well, I'm in the home stretch with this translating business. I expect to be done with the beta version of the English menus sometime tomorrow. I'll post when it's ready and then we can figure out how to get this out to those that want to play the German 1.4 version in English. :D

[GeorgeKeith]

Bungbo;
I had some crashing due to the fact that I unknowingly deleted/added to the words on the startup screen and it was a random thing. I trust that you only replaced for instance, VERLASSEN for quit, so I reason it has to be something like VEQUITSEN (isn't that actually a word?) :)

[InDoMiNaE]

If the value 20 won't work (a space), try 2E (a period)...

"..QUIT..." may be easier to look at than "VEQUITSEN".

Once your finished I can host that also (if need be.)
Let me know if there's any way I can help.

[Centurion]

thanx InDoMiNaE for providing the upload space

if you are useing mozilla firefox just copy the text into notepad and save as rename.bat
and run
we should rename the thred to Dl self paching project

My thanks to everyone for putting this file together !

Draxis ?

I created and sent the file to my desktop.
I don't want to screw this up.
So...please walk me through the remaining steps.

[BungBo]

;) George and Indominae, thanks for the input, but I guarantee you after the hundreds, heck, thousands of lines of items, skill upgrade descriptions, etc. etc. that I've been through these last few days that I have a very good handle on how to stroke this little puppy. I'm pretty sure that there is a better way to do this, but it is really on its last legs! I had to start this translation over so many times! Why? :o Because I had to learn to not use my backspace key! If I backspaced, I lost spaces, if you lose spaces then you're totally screwed! :D So, really thanks dudes, but this puppy is tamed. Tomorrow I will be finished with this part of the project, and I will need GK to hex edit a new character and do what GK does best. Test this bad puppy out! Oh, and by the way George, Verlassen is Exit, Hollen ist (no typo, ist is German for is) Nether and... Oh, I really didn't want to learn German! :o Indominae, we're gonna need your help in getting this puppy out to the masses. I like you're idea of the install proggie. But for the time being, if you're OK with it, can we arrange for you to host the new and improved English G6STRING like you did with Draxis' batch file. Once we get this tested and can move to the Beta Plus mode, acceptance of the English patch, then it would be very, very cool to put all of this in an install and start a new thread for people to go to and just get the whole deal in one simple download. :eek:

[BungBo]

Mkolter, you've contributed greatly to this little project. Thanks so much. I understand what you are saying, but sometimes it's just fun to branch out and mess with stuff rather than waiting for things to get fixed. And if you can help more that would be great! What do you want to work on? Beta testing the new English version? Getting that darn campfire to make noise? Just post what you can do and/or how you'd like to help based on your skills and knowledge and I'd be more than glad to put you to work. But mostly I want to thank you and all the others who just decided to say "screw it" and get involved. I'm having a great time, and wish everyone on this forum...

Happy Holidays!

[draxis]

Centurion
the ezest way is to use internet explorer and download the renamer will only work if the game is installed into the defalt directory otherwise if u use mozilla here what u do

1. copy all lines
2 open note pad
3 right click and paste
4. go to file and (save as) rename.bat
(save to desktop)
5. run
***please note when you run it it only takes a milisecond to rename the files so it appears to have done nothing but infact it has.

[GeorgeKeith]

Ja, vo ist der bahn hoffen? I know, crappy spelling, but hope nobody has to leave town with this mode of transportation, so to speak :)

[Centurion]

"***please note when you run it it only takes a milisecond to rename the files so it appears to have done nothing but infact it has."

Thanks. I discovered that, not long after I posted previously. Again, thanks for the help.

[BungBo]

Ok, I'm finished with the beta version of the English translation of the German 1.4 patch. :D

Just waiting to hear if Indominae is willing to host this file and then I'll get it uploaded.

George, if you want it sooner, PM me your email address and I'll mail it to you.

[GeorgeKeith]

Bungbo, I p'med you!

[InDoMiNaE]

BungBo, I PM'd you also...

[InDoMiNaE]

And here's the link to BungBo's English beta version of gd6string.dat.

http://www.indominae.com/files/gd6string.dat

[Flamingfart]

haha .. this is so funny .... a fan-made patch will be out before the official 1.4 english patch ....

[BungBo]

Indominae check your email again. The file you have the link to is the german file. I've sent you the good one in a new email. Please put that one on your site as soon as possible. Sorry for the screw up. :o

[BungBo]

George the one I sent you is the good one so go ahead and use it. Sorry for any confusion. My brain is a bit mushy from all the hex editing. :eek:

[InDoMiNaE]

I was wondering why it looked the same!
The file has been replaced. The link is still the same.
It's working fine so far! English everywhere except the mp menu!
Do you plan on doing that too?

[BungBo]

Indominae, I pmed you, but in case you didn't see it yet. I just downloaded the file from your link and am still getting the original german file. I'm pretty sure I sent you the right one in the second email so could you check it out? Thanks.

[BungBo]

I decided not to mess with the Multi-Player menus because it would take a heck of a lot of work and I might screw something up by changing things, but if the official patch doesn't come out soon I'll probably give it a try. Also the menu help pages I didn't bother with because I figure people know how to use the keys and what not.

[InDoMiNaE]

If you are on AOL or another Internet service provider then hold Control down and click the link to bypass your service providers proxy server. AOL and other providers use a proxy server which caches www information including files. The file has been replaced and is the correct one (I'm playing it and the timestamps are identical.) Good job btw!

[BungBo]

Indominae, thanks! I am on AOL but control didn't work, but "clearing footsteps" did. You were right about needing to clear my cache.

[GeorgeKeith]

Got it! Looks great so far. T H A N K S :D

[draxis]

im still geting it in german as well iv tryed downloading with both mozilla firefox and ie with the same result

[draxis]

InDoMiNaE

nice websight btw o and i got the file had to clear mozillas cashe

[GeorgeKeith]

Bungbo;

Created new character, with the new file. Hex edited to make my human male/rogue rediculously SUPER and gave him all 43 skills with really high stats. Can't seem to force the game into meltdown. Fought everything right and left and completely scoured the sewers. Just exited the theater from the sewers and now ready to do Fargrove.

Am trying all options possible from your file and nothing wrong so far. I NEED SOME REST! ;)

[chamr]

Go go unofficial stealth US patch team!!!!

:D

P.S. George, are you finding any previously unusable spells working? Especially in Nether, like choking cloud and possession...

[BungBo]

Bungbo;

Created new character, with the new file. Hex edited to make my human male/rogue rediculously SUPER and gave him all 43 skills with really high stats. Can't seem to force the game into meltdown. Fought everything right and left and completely scoured the sewers. Just exited the theater from the sewers and now ready to do Fargrove.

Am trying all options possible from your file and nothing wrong so far. I NEED SOME REST! ;)

So do I, but seriously George if it wasn't for your original post about trying to get the German patch to work with Eng 1.3 I'd never gone down this road. Thanks so much! And I'm actually playing this puppy! But there's more work to do to really make this a really, really cool game. I just wish I knew more about programming or scripting or whatever it takes to make this really work, but WE'VE gotten it to this point and I am a very, very happy camper. :D Sincerely, thanks to all that have worked on and been supportive of this little project. Hey, DC! How about hiring US? Or at least hire George to replace Jeremy! ;)

And as always, Happy Holidays !

[BungBo]

Indominae, I forgot to mention that when you get time it would be very cool if you could make a Beta install of this and start a new thread. I know you offered to do so, but I was absorbed in freakin' out about my upload screw up. :( So please go ahead and do what you can with this. Thanks again, and sorry for all the angst earlier, I'm usually just a lurker and not a contributor so... Well, as Forrest Gump would say, "That's all I have to say about that."

[BungBo]

Hey George! Just had an idea... Since I'm just starting this game (bought it June!), what should my character start out as. You're doing a Rogue/Thief for this test, but what do you recommend for a newbie? Don't suggest something that's a huge challenge, but what do you think would make my little cherry experience really interesting? ;)

[draxis]

a mage is realy powerfull in this game if had great sucsess with a battlemage deathlord and all the spells are working cataclisum rocks

[draxis]

on another note here are some screenshots of neverwinter nights 2 being reliced in 2006 http://nwvault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=1148

[GeorgeKeith]

A fighter can use all manner of scrolls and other things such as blast crystals. Without cheating, I always loaded up on all the nova blast scrolls as possible. They can be purchased at the archane emporium next to the moon bridge on the east central part of fargrove. At the temple of circene, on the west central part of town, you should buy a crystal of time.

Only reason for choosing rogue is just to be different. Since I'm cheating to the hilt this time through, character class doesn't matter when given all abilities. Like I said, I'm trying to force the game into meltdown to test out this German/English version.

[InDoMiNaE]

Some spells still dont work for me... Like (Celestial)Blink, And (Arcane)FireMissles,FireStorm... and a couple of others. I haven't tried them all, but if I have time I'm gonna see what's missing "just because".
I'll start on the... "mod"... installer as soon as I get back from my last min XMas shopping...

[GeorgeKeith]

Now I know why some of the wave directories are empty. For instance, August has no spoken dialogue in his sanctuary. Just text.

In the catacombs of fargrove, where you listen to the head in chest and get treasure map from enemy, the large chest in the small room still cannot be opened.

[InDoMiNaE]

I need a Beta Tester for the "mod" installer!

[BungBo]

I'll test it. Want to email it to me?

[InDoMiNaE]

I Sent the email to you.

I had to edit the DLspeakrename.bat file to make it work with the installer so it should work no matter where your dungeon lords is installed.

[BungBo]

I got the installer. I've already uninstalled and reinstalled DL so will test this out now and post very shortly.

[draxis]

thats ok id i would hav thought of it i would have used teh path command instead of CD.s but hind sight ism always 20'20 havent used doss sence 1995 when win 95 came out

[draxis]

now we just need a good save editor like baldars gate and diablo had

[BungBo]

The installer works great! And the graphics in the installer are freakin' great! Good job Indominae, very slick. So you want to put a link here or start a new thread?

I'm finding some German stuff I missed and cleaning it up. When I get enough done to warrant an update, I'll let you know.

Thanks for the great job you did, really impressive. :D

[InDoMiNaE]

Well, do you want to hold off until you fix what you need too?

[BungBo]

Well, do you want to hold off until you fix what you need too?


Good question. How about holding off for a couple of hours anyway so I can get a better idea of how long it will take. I'll off log now and get at it and check in here a bit later.

[GeorgeKeith]

Installer? water u all up to?

[InDoMiNaE]

An installer for this "mod". It renames everything that needs to be renamed and puts in BungBo's gd6string.dat to your Dungeon Lords folder where-ever that may be...

so anyone can download the German 1.4 patch, install it, then download this mod installer, run it, and have 1.4 in English.

I hope BungBo tried it in a non-default directory too...!
Once he is finished with his gd6string v2, I'll put that in the mod installer and make it available via link. One thing though... should someone make a ReadMe.txt ??

[GeorgeKeith]

Something I was wondering about, renaming two small files so that items in inventory shows english. Is this necessary in addition to the gd6string.dat change?

[InDoMiNaE]

Yes. The iname.dat has to be renamed to giname.dat for the items to be in English. (Just tried it.) With the original file the item names are in German.

The installer switches these files already so the item names are in English.

[draxis]

i wonder what dreamcatcher thinks about this little project its not like we are hideing anything

[GeorgeKeith]

So, an all in one installer! Great :)

[BungBo]

Alright, I'm finished with the cleaning up. I fixed the unidentified stuff so it's in English now and some other stuff I ran into while playing like when you kill something it now reads "Dies" instead of "Stirbt." So this is ready. Indominae, I'll email you this one in a zip file so it doesn't get mixed up with any other versions.

I also uninstalled and reinstalled again but this time to C:\Program Files\Dungeon Lords like the German patch and ran your installer and it works great.

Thanks again. :)

[redman5427]

So, are you guys going to have a christmas present for us since it seems dreamcatcher won't?
And have you guys tested multiplayer yet to see if they fixed it?

[BungBo]

Hmm, that's a thought. Might be a good idea to at least let people know that the Multi-Player menus and the Help Menu are still in German. Also they shouldn't freak out when the installer is patching and the dos window keeps writing out something like "Can't find so and so..." because it works. Other than that I can't think of anything that you didn't already include in the installer graphics. I'd write it but I gotta get off the computer and take care of some real life stuff. :eek: But I could give it a go tomorrow if you think it's important.

[BungBo]

So, are you guys going to have a christmas present for us since it seems dreamcatcher won't?
And have you guys tested multiplayer yet to see if they fixed it?

Sorry I haven't tested multi-player cause I don't know anything about it. I also didn't translate the multi-player menues to English because it looked like a heck of a lot of work and I was worried I might mess it up. But if you are already familiar with the mp menues then you might be able to try it out and let us know if they fixed it.

[GeorgeKeith]

During the install, the error messages are because of the empty wave directories!

[InDoMiNaE]

There's a single player mode? (joke.) I ONLY play this game multiplayer.
It's been fine so far except the MP menu I mentioned and some german in some places... and one other thing I saw which I'm looking for right now...

German words like RUNENSCHLAG on a magic sword and FEUERSCHLAG,
and HoLLENSCHLAG on Kama of the Void...

The "other" thing I mentioned you appear to have fixed. it was
"Special Item D"

I don't know German, but I do have 1.3 backed up. I could probably do the MP menus... I know the buttons, though, so It doesn't bother me...

[BungBo]

There's a single player mode? (joke.) I ONLY play this game multiplayer.
It's been fine so far except the MP menu I mentioned and some german in some places... and one other thing I saw which I'm looking for right now...



Yeah I figured you for a Multi personality... uh, I mean Player after checking out your website. ;)

If there are a bunch of MPers out there that want that stuff in English, I'll give it a try.

I did notice while looking at the MP stuff that there is Death Match. What on earth is Death Match?

[redman5427]

I am quite familar with the multi-player menu's so no problem. Does your installer need us to do a fresh install followed by patch 1.1, 1.3 then the German 1.3 -1.4. then followed by your installer? I am ready to go if you need another tester.

[BungBo]

German words like RUNENSCHLAG on a magic sword and FEUERSCHLAG,
and HoLLENSCHLAG on Kama of the Void...


Anything with schlag is usually Strike, so like Rune Strike, Fire Strike and Nether Strike. Kama I'm not sure of. I'd have to look that up.

[redman5427]

Deathmatch has always been there it is just the standard mode but you can damage other players with both mele damage and magic damage

[InDoMiNaE]

The link is posted here:

http://www.dreamcatcherinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26513

[BungBo]

i got all the files renamed last night just need a place to upload the file for ALL to use the url dogman provided is just for sending emails of larg files to 1 person but to make things ezer ill make a batch file to chage names useing mkolters dos instructions that will make a mouch smaller download and not break the ULA

Just wanted to mention... We owe thanks to MKolter for the idea that helped Draxis, and also I don't want to forget Oink who gave me the idea to compare the files with the hex editor rather than screen shots. Sincerely, if I'd gone with my first idea we'd be way behind. Indominae, I don't want to be a pain but could you include these fine folks in your credits in the installer?

[InDoMiNaE]

Done. There is still no readme.txt for this... (I might add)

[runescape101]

Done. There is still no readme.txt for this... (I might add)


Yea but at least in my opinion getting those multi player menus translated is far more important than a readme

[BungBo]

OK, I'm just about finished with the Multi-Player menues. I translated the stuff Indominae mentioned earlier, all the schlag and such stuff. Still finding stuff to change but it's looking pretty good. I need to test some more. There are a ton of error messages for MP! Not really sure I want to wade through that mess. Anyway, I'll post another update later today.

[GeorgeKeith]

In 1.3, consuming a liquid air potion didn't seem to do anything. 1.4 does. I decided to swim across lake dread instead of using the bridges. On the map, a yellow dot showed up. I drank an air potion and a large air bubble surrounded me. Swam down to find a chest with gold and a minor item. The air bubble lasted well after hitting land on my way to skuldoon. Was wondering how to turn off the bubble. It eventually wore off.

[GeorgeKeith]

Eh.... that installer bout ready? Finished the first playthrough with the German/English conversion. Some things actually improved a little.