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Enigma
05-21-2006, 01:38 PM
Does anyone know how many kills you should have when you finish the mine cart ride to get all kills. I don't want to get to the end of the level if I haven't killed all, as I already 5 starred it and just want to get the tarrot. I'm up to 74 but I think I missed one or two. I have gone back but haven't got better than 74. :cool:
Bjossi
05-21-2006, 02:10 PM
I think you need to have 81.
I suggest using Mercy and Demon Morph tarot cards to make the cart ride easier. And not to forget Time Bonus, Double Time Bonus is buggy (it should be called No Time Bonus) so use the prior one instead.
Good luck. :D
IMO the best way to get the card is to use haste card during the mine cart ride.
Enigma
05-21-2006, 02:33 PM
IMO the best way to get the card is to use haste card during the mine cart ride.
Thats a good point. I had already tried demon morph but slowing the world down should make it easier.
Bjossi
05-21-2006, 02:54 PM
Haste didn't make things any easier for me, Demon Morph makes enemies much more visible from the environment plus one shot = kill, and you can do that three times throughout the cart ride if you equip Mercy.
:)
Hmm, never really tried it out with morph but everybody can use technique which feels best. Have to remind that SYS made it through the mine cart ride without tarot cards on trauma and made a video (http://tombraider.central-game.net/sys/painkiller/sys_underworld-minecartriding-high.wmv)
Bjossi
05-21-2006, 04:07 PM
To do that you need to have a bullet proof plan on what enemy to shoot where, that takes a lot of time that I'm too lazy to do myself. :p
Enigma
05-21-2006, 04:44 PM
I think you need to have 81.
I suggest using Mercy and Demon Morph tarot cards to make the cart ride easier. And not to forget Time Bonus, Double Time Bonus is buggy (it should be called No Time Bonus) so use the prior one instead.
Good luck. :D
You're right 81 it is. That triple haste card is great. See enamies taken out in slow motion, limbs blown off, cannon balls going past so slow you can see the holes in them. :p
I just realised I got the bug that gives me unlimited card usage in BOOH. I 5 stared PK a while ago and you get unlimited use in PK but it never gave me unlimited use in BOOH until now. I had finished BOOH and was just 5 starring 1 level and getting the tarrot on another. :cool:
I saw the vid by sys but I only did the level once. You need to have done it a few times to know where all the enamies are and which weapon works best and so on.
I had tried demon morph but found (at normal speed) I got most enamies but wasn't sure if I had them all and even though they show up red against grey background, blown off limbs also show in red so you can't always tell a full person from a limb as you're going round. Remember that was the only time I had done the level. Obviously the more times you do it its easier.
...a voice from the darkness.....
The MineCart Riding is a nice challenge in BOOH, with or without cards. Enigma, when I first did it on Trauma without using the Black Tarot, I completed BOOH many times before, plus I practiced the riding for about 4 hours in a row. Yeah, 4 hours non-stop and in the end, I could do it once. I was very happy... :D Then I decided to record it, and then it was a bit easier, I did it just after about 4-5 tries. Today I always clear the whole cartride with no cards on Nightmare and Trauma too, every time I finish the game. This is how You can improve Your skills: You reach a skill-level, but that's not enough, but You must try to keep that level too..and sooner or later it will become a "normal" thing, and You can improve more (today I use only 2 weapons for the cartriding, instead of 3..I used 3 in the video). I remember, further back I thought that the cart riding surely requires cards..today it's very easy for me and pure fun (BTW, every single card is unlockable in PK+BOOH without using up a single silver or gold card), especially with this MX518 mouse... :D I must admit, it's about aiming: that means knowing the enemies and the weapons are not enough, because it's fast, so You must hit too with the weapons or the whole thing worth nothing - I mean this for the hardest case (Trauma, no cards), of course... ;)
For You, I can offer The Sceptre card too: that makes the enemies too weak, so You need just a single hit on them and they will die...
Good luck!! :)
Umm, one more thing... When I first unlocked the card (that was my 2nd(!) BOOH-completion on Insomnia, because first I completed it on DayDream), I did NOT use up any silver/gold card..nothing... And I still could get the card. So You can get it even after "a few tries", but that may be too painful. I got the card, but I QuickSaved a lot during the riding, and naturally I had to reload tons of times (so I couldn't do it in one round, like I did months(!) later in the video)...
Enigma
05-21-2006, 07:17 PM
...a voice from the darkness.....
The MineCart Riding is a nice challenge in BOOH, with or without cards. Enigma, when I first did it on Trauma without using the Black Tarot, I completed BOOH many times before, plus I practiced the riding for about 4 hours in a row. Yeah, 4 hours non-stop and in the end, I could do it once. I was very happy... :D Then I decided to record it, and then it was a bit easier, I did it just after about 4-5 tries. Today I always clear the whole cartride with no cards on Nightmare and Trauma too, every time I finish the game. This is how You can improve Your skills: You reach a skill-level, but that's not enough, but You must try to keep that level too..and sooner or later it will become a "normal" thing, and You can improve more (today I use only 2 weapons for the cartriding, instead of 3..I used 3 in the video). I remember, further back I thought that the cart riding surely requires cards..today it's very easy for me and pure fun (BTW, every single card is unlockable in PK+BOOH without using up a single silver or gold card), especially with this MX518 mouse... :D I must admit, it's about aiming: that means knowing the enemies and the weapons are not enough, because it's fast, so You must hit too with the weapons or the whole thing worth nothing - I mean this for the hardest case (Trauma, no cards), of course... ;)
For You, I can offer The Sceptre card too: that makes the enemies too weak, so You need just a single hit on them and they will die...
Good luck!! :)
Umm, one more thing... When I first unlocked the card (that was my 2nd(!) BOOH-completion on Insomnia, because first I completed it on DayDream), I did NOT use up any silver/gold card..nothing... And I still could get the card. So You can get it even after "a few tries", but that may be too painful. I got the card, but I QuickSaved a lot during the riding, and naturally I had to reload tons of times (so I couldn't do it in one round, like I did months(!) later in the video)...
Yes I did it with triple haste. You're right after a few times you get to know where to aim, what weapon works best and so on. I just realised now I actually finished both PK and BOOH 5 star and tarrots. Its kind of an anticlimax now. Almost like doing the challenges was going to lead to a reward, then, nothing.
Bjossi
05-21-2006, 07:40 PM
At least you don't have to do that stuff again if you don't want to.
Maybe try to beat all the levels of PK + BooH with only one weapon of choice?
Enigma
05-22-2006, 08:57 AM
At least you don't have to do that stuff again if you don't want to.
Maybe try to beat all the levels of PK + BooH with only one weapon of choice?
I felt kind of lost after finishing but there are levels I want to go back and revisit. The stone pit I don't know how I got through. I'd like to go back and learn the level rather than just bumbling through.
Plus there are some levels I only got through using cards so I'd like to beat them without. PK has definately got replay value.
Bjossi
05-22-2006, 10:00 AM
Not for me unfortunately. I tried replaying it but I got very bored after just a few minutes. :/
Enigma
05-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Not for me unfortunately. I tried replaying it but I got very bored after just a few minutes. :/
Like a few here I've been through almost 3 times, Insomnia, nightmare and trauma on PK and nightmare in BOOH so that is far more than any other game I've played and I still want to go back to a few levels.
Is there a different ending in BOOH if you play on trauma? Is the bonus level a SP map or MP map and how to access it?
Is there a different ending in BOOH if you play on trauma? Is the bonus level a SP map or MP map and how to access it?
There is the 'Last tower' bonus level which loads after end credits. You'll find pictures of game developers in the level and have to collect some souls ;)
Enigma
05-22-2006, 12:43 PM
There is the 'Last tower' bonus level which loads after end credits. You'll find pictures of game developers in the level and have to collect some souls ;)
Thanks, as the demon with the scroll came I pressed esc.
CHFlagg
05-23-2006, 02:28 AM
Not for me unfortunately. I tried replaying it but I got very bored after just a few minutes. :/
The cemetary and catacombs bore me. I go thru them as quickly as possible just to get to the other levels.
Luigibuddy
05-23-2006, 03:02 AM
The cemetary and catacombs bore me. I go thru them as quickly as possible just to get to the other levels.
Catacombs and cemetary are great levels imo, but the last two normal levels in the BooH expansion are horrible. I admit I have yet to finish the last one before the boss without using powermad to skip it. Yes, it's THAT boring and poorly designed for me.
CHFlagg
05-23-2006, 03:17 AM
Catacombs and cemetary are great levels imo, but the last two normal levels in the BooH expansion are horrible. I admit I have yet to finish the last one before the boss without using powermad to skip it. Yes, it's THAT boring and poorly designed for me.
I agree they are great levels and a great way to warm up for whats to come in the game.
Bjossi
05-23-2006, 08:54 AM
I beat Stone Pit and Underworld, but there is no way in hell that I'm going to try to find all the secrets in the Pit. ;)
Finding the secrets in the pit is fun and underworld secrets are even more fun :P
Bjossi
05-23-2006, 09:47 AM
You hush! ;):p