PC GAMER Review 81% for Overdose

[Admin [DC]]

Painkiller Overdose
More Demons than you can shake a boom-stick at...

81% - Excellent

View full magazine review here (http://www.dreamcatchergames.com/newsletter/sales/fall07/pcgamer_review_pkoverdose.pdf)

In my review of Crysis in the Holiday 2007 issue, I talked about the 'Crysis Effect' - I didn't think I could ever go back to playing a tight linear shooter with dumb AI without feeling like I'd just been handed 'Baby's First FPS.' Well, it's only a month later and I'm already eating crow. Painkiller: Overdose is a manic, balls-out kill-fest that is virtually Crysis-proof in its construction and a fantastic reminder of what I loved about the first Painkiller. If Crysis is like a deep, engrossing movie, then Painkiller: Overdose is like a day at Universal Studios theme park, noisy, with little depth, lots of action, and a surprise around every corner.

Mindware seamlessly takes over the reins from original Painkiller developer, People Can Fly, leading us on a wild ride through 16 all-new levels of unrelenting mayhem. Billed as a 'prequel to [Painkiller's] eventual sequel, Overdose casts you as Belial, a smack-talking half angel/half demon who has been imprisoned by Lucifer deep in the bowels of Hell, taking vengeance on all of Satan's little helpers along the way.

Like its predecessor; Overdose's gameplay is linear, fast-paced Serious Sam-style shooting action. The key to preventing this kind of frenetic shooter from getting boring is to pack every level to the brim with creativity, variety, and tons of surprises-which helps you forget that the dozens of gaudy enemies that keep teleporting into the gameworld are brain-dead simpletons who wouldn't know a flanking maneuver from a Krispy Kreme donut. Overdose delivers with a grandiose spectacle that whips through places in Hell you probably didn't learn about in Divinity class, such as medieval battlefields, gang-ridden 'hoods, boggy marshes, and outer space. Each chapter ends with a battle against a colossal end boss.

Most of the weapons from the first game return (including the titular Painkiller flying cube), along with six new ones, including exploding gas bombs and a screaming goblin head. And, of course, stat-enhancing tarot cards (earned by completing secret goals in each level) and the one-shot kill demon-morph mode (triggered by collecting enough of your victim's souls) are also back. In addition to the rollicking single-player campaign, Overdose is also jam-packed with fun multi-player modes (eight in all), ranging from simple deathmatch to Last Man Standing, and 13 total multi-player maps. (A level editor is included, so expect more maps soon.)

Considering its budget pedigree, Overdose's $39.99 price tag may seem a bit steep. But for fans of mindless fun, it's worth every penny.

[fleabay]

"Most of the weapons from the first game return (including the titular Painkiller flying cube), along with six new ones...."

Painkiller is a flying cube? The weapons from the first PK are in OD?

Chuck Osborn (whoever he is) gave it 81%. PC Gamer needed some fill.

[Artas1984]

81 % is way too much for such a "fuflo" knowing original Painkiller got overall 85 %.

[maspingon]

81% - Excellent

This is just funny.

"fast-paced Serious Sam-style shooting"- whole story

[kalme]

Artas, I don't know what a "fuflo" is and since you didn't provide an explanation I assume it's a horrible Lithuanian national dish that causes kneecab cancer when eaten in civilized parts of the world... anyway, I'm starting to be under the vage impression that you slightly dislike Overdose, taken all the bitching into account you do in virtually every thread that pops up in any forum, even if its only remotely discussing Painkiller, Overdose or questionable political systems in Eastern Europe. Obviously Overdose is not what some people expected, especially not in terms of multiplayer or saving the snow leopards, and I also acknowledge that people who spent the first years of their lives under a totalitarian regime may have a particularly strong need to express theirselves. However, even moths banging their heads against street lamps know that they're going to burn their tongues when their fuflo is too hot -- I think you know what I'm trying to tell you, don't you? As far as my limited knowledge goes (please don't correct me if I'm wrong) you didn't play Overdose that much until know, did you? I mean, two weeks ago you wrote in another place that the oxcart is stuck somewhere on its flight from somewhere else and that Overdose (man, I think I'm going to write this word a lot in this post, so from now on I will just abbreviate it by typing "the Holy Grail of Western Civilization") will be delayed in your country for another month. But I also remember that in another post which got deleted by the Spanish Inquisition you ranted about the decreasing quality of first class Chinese DVD products from Russia which would allow a first peek at a Hebrew version of the Holy Grail of the Western Civilization (with Indian subtitles), if only your CD drive could read it, right? But let's assume for the moment that with the help of Iranian nuclear scientists (or whatever you call your Walmart employees over there) you got that erm "press kit for independant Lithuanian game testers" up and running, it's highly likely that you only installed it one your laptop, which -- in your own words -- "sucks so much my earwax gets vacuumed into my lungs when I touch it". Of course this is just a stab in the dark, I'm just putting two and two together, since you told us you smashed your monitor in this mysterious vodka-bacardi-birthday-"let's sacrifice some weasels"-rite (although I may have made up the weasels part for dramaturgic reasons), and that we won't see any Holy Grail of the Western Civilization movies from you because you only have a laptop now. Anyway, even given the possibility that you've only played (read: seen from a distance) the Holy Grail of Western Civilization (read: a trailer) on a friend's computer (read: a shop's window), I still grant you a personal opinion about this game, as long (there's the rub) as you stay reasonable. Take this fuflobay guy for example. Yes sure, he makes what he thinks is a funny remark about the review, but at least he has a point. You just have fuflo, and even by Lithanian standards, that's not much. What's really interesting though, and I think every expert in psychosomatic disorders (and Rod Stewart) will agree to that, is the fact that you don't stop doing this. Even my imaginary dog Fufloffy looks at me startled when I tell him: it's Artas again, nagging about Overdose. I mean, the last time I've seen such persistence in telling everybody that a game is worse than the second incarnation of Stalin was when PeTjA decided to go nuts (I mean the last time he did), but that doesn't count -- it's PeTjA. Furthermore, I'm kind of sad for you, because after two and a half years without fresh Painkiller, I thought that people might celebrate the Holy Grail of the Western World as Holy Grail even if it turns out to be just Ms. PacMan with spinning blades added. You know, somehow, for some people, it is a great game. With the marvellous work of that German guy kafuflome you even get a virtually flawless singleplayer experience without any bugs - the only thing a Painkiller fellow needs to do is open up their minds. If you're not good at it, go ahead and smoke some deep-fried squirrel or whatever it is that helps you when you feel uncomfortable around the ladies... sure, I also was like "dude, how could they cut out the stake gun" (but without the "dude" thing, I'm way too old for that kind of talk). I fully agreed with people saying "Goo gun? Don't we have Oprah for that?" But it only needs like I don't know exactly, 50 to 100 hours of game play until you start loving the new stuff, and now when I go back to the original Painkiller it even feels kind of strange not having someone telling me he doesn't want to see that ******* Grant showing up in the Docks level. I'm glad the Holy Grail of Western Civilization is not just a cheap Chinese-Russian copycat of Painkiller, but actual evolution. It's like seeing a turtle turning into a turtle with hair, you know? Like doom3istheshiz using punctuation when he insults people. You should know best that it's not old bread that's hard, it's no bread at all which is. Appreciate what you've got. Also, there's an old German proverb that says "das Aas stinkt über sein Lager hinaus", which I'm pretty sure doesn't make any sense in this context, but it never hurts remembering stuff like that anyway. I really hope that global warming turns out as a hoax and that you develop an appetite for this game just as big as for fuflo, because despite all your really annoying four letter posts it's unquestioned that the boredom of long and hard Lithuanian winters have brought the Painkiller community entertaining accomplishments from you, which I hope we'll continue to see once you get a computer not driven by hamsters.

This concludes my *cough* review of the Holy Grail of Western Civilization, I now suggest you ask your mother to send you to your room to think about what you've done. No fuflo for you today!

P.S. No offense, please don't send troops!

[SOULTAKER]

What he said. :D

In the illustrious voice of Mr. FragManiac: "I vote Sticky!!!" :D

Kalme you should be writing scripts for Hollywood. Without a doubt the Best Post of the Year. :cool:

:):p;):D:cool::eek:

[Martyns]

I think 81% is just fine (I saw 49% in British "PC Gamer" though). I have even gave it more in our local Lithuanian magazine (it will become "PC Gamer" next month too).

[pool]

Kalme
Fuflo - cheap thing that deserves no interest.

[Artas1984]

Wow, have you gone crazy kalme? I mean it that Overodse's score is way too big compared to original's PK (81 % - 85 %) and i am not alone with this actualy, deal with it, it's my opinion. And ok, no offence here.

But anyway, i am even going to do the 5 start thingy even if i think OD is not as good as BOOH, more not even than HGAH. Maby your funny post just encouredged me for that. Btw, i've got my cheap Chinesse DVD remake earlyer before i smashed my monitor, but my friend comes with his PC, on which OD is installed - ye, the same cheap Chinesse DVD pirate copy.

And you see now, fuflo is not that bad, it's one of the russian national dishes actualy, just more cheaper, not so original, lacky and buggy over the original Painkiller meat stake with blood.:)

[Varus77]

:) And the Oscar goes to...

KALME

...that was the longest, epic like, posting I've seen so far here... and I'm a member for a very long time... :D

btw...81% is ok for me

At least I was (enjoyably) surprised that Mindware, another team - even not PCF, was able to make a expansions pak for PK and to get this balancing act between new improvements and the good old traditions well known from PK.
They hold it alive what we all like so much!

[maspingon]

and I also acknowledge that people who spent the first years of their lives under a totalitarian regime may have a particularly strong need to express theirselves

Yes, you Germans are well known for that


But it only needs like I don't know exactly, 50 to 100 hours of game play until you start loving the new stuff

So it takes 100 hours to get used to that new, awful weapons, bad level design and serious sammy gameplay? That's cool


I'm glad the Holy Grail of Western Civilization is not just a cheap Chinese-Russian copycat of Painkiller, but actual evolution.

I agree you should become a Hollywood producer, you got great imagination


I mean, the last time I've seen such persistence in telling everybody that a game is worse than the second incarnation of Stalin was when PeTjA decided to go nuts (I mean the last time he did), but that doesn't count -- it's PeTjA.

Petja was often eccentric, but he was one of the biggest PK fans. I'm not suprised he said "**** it" after playing OD. Actually you are the one that should be considered going nuts. Most of PK fans don't like OD, you are one of the last fanboys telling everyone -"you are stupid, narrow minded retard - OD is great". Guess what - there is a reason nobody playing it and this forums are empty

[medic]

(A level editor is included, so expect more maps soon.)

They forgot to test building maps with it :rolleyes:

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

I would say the game was 81% ready when it was released. The MP is almost completely a non-existent part. Surprisingly there are cups though and already some players are playing it and supporting this non-existing part with it (no offense mate, I'm in it a bit too, so we're both stupid :D). I mean playing the "nothing"..oh, this is a very serious thing... :D

BTW, we're still waiting for the upcoming (erm, when? :)) patch, what is already at DC as MW enlighted us about that some time ago... Gogogo, DC... :D

[Admin [DC]]

The MP aspect of the game is being addressed starting next week in conjunction with the patch thats being released soon from Mindware, they will be separate things but ....there are going to be some surprises for the community and in a good way, it'll be opened up and much more geared towards the community aspect and online play (video, stats and plenty of other required items)...I've done some posting on the OD board re this and one of Mindwares developers have been doing some updating re the patch there recently as well...just had to get through a couple of hurdles from upstairs (figuratively I mean)...

The MP improvements will flow nicely in to the proposed online tournament/comp for OD I'm planning, which I'm trying to insure is quality with good system and prizes. Should be fun regardless and hopefully recurring throughout the year with one big comp and several smaller with lesser prizes throughout the year. Stay tuned :)

[SOULTAKER]

Boy that's some chip you carry on your shoulder Maspingon. :( You've already made it very clear that you don't like Overdose. You've said your piece countless times. We all know your reasons. You keep repeating them. You are the unremitting voice of disapproval. ;)

As for Kalme's post, it's obvious he was letting off some steam. It's a long time coming if you're unfortunate enough to read Artas' insulting remarks frequently. It's uncommon for Kalme to do this and that's what makes it so special. :) Whereas for Arty, being loathsome is customary.

That's a good choice of word, "eccentric". I like that. :cool: There's nothing wrong with being eccentric. PeTjA lost face because he was overassertive with his moderation. I don't think his feelings about Overdose are the reasons he is no longer with us.

And please don't associate all people of German origin with Fascism or Nazism. I don't presume all Russians approve of Communism or consider Lenin and Stalin to be heroes.

Sorry to go off-topic people.

[Artas1984]

Cheapmouth soultaker, i can always background my statements when reviewing a game.
However for the ultimate review of Overdose the game surely must be played with the upcomming patch and powermad making a 5 star too.

The first impressions are the things those did not marked the game very special so far, but time will tell, this is Painkiller after all, the lust from the fact that a new game is out is still biger than the disapointment of the first impressions.

[SlaughterMace]

Eastern Europe

Watch your tongue you dog! I am from there too and even if i would not like the game, i could say what i want, right? Although i don't care about it generaly, but your social-political off-topic blaberings don't belong here.


Without a doubt the Best Post of the Year.

This was off topic, political scumbags...



Chuck Osborn (whoever he is) gave it 81%. PC Gamer needed some fill.

You'r right. It might have been Chuck Norris...


PeTjA lost face because he was overassertive with his moderation

Ye right, that cranky mod of your's? The man banned me because he felt insulted that i gave the right advice to some guy in technical discussions while he could not find a solution so he decided that "if i the moderator don't know how to help, noone is going to help" - what a retard...

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....


Watch your tongue you dog! I am from there too and even if i would not like the game, i could say what i want, right? Although i don't care about it generaly, but your social-political off-topic blaberings don't belong here.

I'm from Eastern Europe too but I didn't take that serious at all. Also, I didn't think of calling Him "dog", that would've been just a bit immature. But all in all, maybe I know Kalme a bit better than some folks here... :) *peace*

[Admin [DC]]

as much as I appreciate a good political discussion/debate, you guys really know this is pretty unproductive for here, if you want to bash each other take it off the main thread and PM it or something, start an IRC channel or something ;) but otherwise simmer. thx

[Corsee1992]

Graphics points? No big difference looking from PK but lags like hell..
That is bad, now totaly unplayable.

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

Corsee, I'm having the same performance-issue: I'm getting 15-25 FPS sometimes in some rooms/areas. I really don't get it, especially when PK+BOOH ran fine...

[Luigibuddy]

Artas, I don't know what a "fuflo" is and since you didn't provide an explanation I assume it's a horrible Lithuanian national dish that causes kneecab cancer when eaten in civilized parts of the world...

Please Kalme, next time use paragraphs.

I still love you <3.

- Luigi

p.s: can't believe you still remember doom3istheshiz hahahahahahahahahhahaha.
p.s 2: that was the best post I ever read since I first registered in these forums back in 2004.

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

I think not using paragraphs was intended, that was part of the joke... ;)

[Luigibuddy]

serious sammy gameplay

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS AWESOME SECRET DUDE!!!!!!!
In Painkiller you shoot 100 monsters and move to the next area.
In Serious Sam you shoot 100 monsters and move to the next area.

I'M ON FIRE:):(:confused::mad::p;):D:o:rolleyes::cool::ee k::cool::cool:

qwertyuiopñ`+sadfghjkl.ñ-´xcvbnm,.-

[maspingon]

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS AWESOME SECRET DUDE!!!!!!!


Originally Posted by kalme View Post
Artas, I don't know what a "fuflo" is and since you didn't provide an explanation I assume it's a horrible Lithuanian national dish that causes kneecab cancer when eaten in civilized parts of the world...

that was the best post I ever read since I first registered in these forums back in 2004.

Thx for sharing. That's pity


Btw I also have a secret for you. Painkiller expansion should be PK style

[Darkinfinity]

Please ppl let me say one or two sentences to Kalmes post, because we share one brain and I know how he meant his post. :D

It wasn’t a post against Eastern Europe or a political post. It was only a post against Artas. And believe me, a friendly post. Artas posted warez links in our forum and makes stupid jokes which nobody understands. This are half of Artas posts. The other half are posts against Overdose. How crappy and bad the game is.

This is annoying! Very annoying! Everybody can make their own opinion for a game. This is okay. The point I don’t understand is. If I dislike a game so much, why am I still posting in the forums which are related to this game? Every time anybody says “I like Overdose” one of these clowns come and say “Overdose is crap!”. Okay now we know this, ARTAS (and other ppl who fell like that!) You’ve completed your mission, now please proceed to the next level and go to the Stalker forum.

We all have friends in Eastern Europe too. We don’t care about politics, religion or nationality!

[Luigibuddy]

Thx for sharing. That's pity


Btw I also have a secret for you. Painkiller expansion should be PK style

i came ~~

[Artas1984]

I SAID I CAN BACKGROUND MY OPINION !!!

I don't waste my words for nothing! 2 years ago i used to defend original PK from newcommers who bash the game without backgrounding it!
And now when Overdose did not came as good as even BOOH, i myself wanted to split some critics, because i have the wright to do it, especialy when i did PK "in and out".

So bitching me just for nothing? Here, i can proove me words:

-stupid monster design
-repetetive or not original weapons
-lack of movies
-a bit cheaper level design from original PK
-much more bugs compared to original PK
-not competetive multiplayer
-serious performance drop

Is that enough arguments for you dark not calling a me clown? So how come i am a clown because of these arguments? Does that mean maspingon and slaughtermace are clowns too, or just me?
GROW UP!

[SOULTAKER]

I agree with DarkInfinity. If you don't like something why subject yourself to it?

If you ate a horse turd Artas and didn't like the taste, would you eat more horse turd Artas?

Guys I'm hurt! :( Editing my post... yeah fair enough, but deleting it? IMO that's a strong statement. :eek:

Cheapmouth soultaker :D

1|= 7#3j 64\/3 4 24^/X |=02 831^/6 64j j0v'I> 83 4 "5-5742" 63^/3241_ 42745! ;)

[Artas1984]

I agree with DarkInfinity. If you don't like something why subject yourself to it?


Neverless of what i dislike i still am going to play it, i just wanted to compare Overdose with HGAH. Now happy? Every human does that in every Painkiller forum and usulay does not get the kind of replies like "on now, it's wrong to state bad things"...



Guys I'm hurt! :( Editing my post... yeah fair enough, but deleting it?


It seems you are talking about yourself. Yesterday you were the one that edited and deleted your own posts like this one:



If they gave a rank for being gay, you'd be a "5-star" general Artas!

[Darkinfinity]

On your reaction I can see, you get the sense of the post "It wasn’t a post against Eastern Europe or a political post.". It's personally! ;) That's enough for me!

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

I've added a 5 too... :D Just this was the WRONG topic! :D :D

[maspingon]

Gametrailers - suprisingly optimistic score - 6.6

The review itself is not so optimistic - "Belial - one of the worst heroes ever created in games history", "PK was mindless and fun, Od is just mindless".

[SYS]

...a voice from the darkness.....

Anyway I never really agreed with the "PK was mindless" theory. Typically this always was said by those guys who completed the SP on Insomnia or DayDream once even without trying to unlock the cards, not to mention the Secrets and other things. And in the MP the player goes nowhere if he is performing a mindless gameplay... I also would like to see someone is playing OD on Trauma mindlessly (is that a word?)..and how far he gets then... :D

Oh, and the opinion of testers for game magazines is always respected, because they have just a very limited time to test a game. But that is all... Everyone should test it by himself too to make an opinion, instead of being lazy due to just listening to some silly subjective sucky score-numbers (:D) and percentages... :)

[Martyns]

-stupid monster design
-repetetive or not original weapons

I would not agree with those two.

[Varus77]

Yes...
and I would not agree further more with:

-lack of movies (can't see where that should come from because they're still bink-movies and that isn't content related - only bit-related)
-a bit cheaper level design from original PK (surprising for me because sometimes I've thought that it's a bit better :))
-serious performance drop (you're talking about MP? Then I can't assess...)

[Artas1984]

I would not agree with those two.

Creatures:

Take a look at the "minotaur" - wtf is that?
The minotaurs in Hexen 2 Portal Of Praevus, a game that is 9 years older than Overdose, look more realistic.
Look at the faces of those crippled soldiers in wheelchairs - 2007?

Weapons:

The spinning cube is a remake of a Painkiller, just other design.
Bonegun works just like shotgun, just other design.
Rocket gun with and SMG type auto riffle - sad...
The crosbow - an alternative instead of boltgun and stakegun - worst weapon remake, actualy is not usefull to me at all.
The sword - he does things that have nothing to do with the definition of a sword itself. At least it could look liek a "bumerang".
The head - the eye laser is endless, with a huge ammount of ammo that leads to complete disballance, the scream is quite original though...
Acid gun - at least it sticks to the floor.


About movies - it's just a same picture of how the story develops - a book..

[Artas1984]

And one more thing - i realy don't like the tarot cards, they are realy disapointing in comparison with older, i said on dark's forums that the new tarot cards sux, and got a pm from dark where he takes that opinion as insulting, so whatch out, you better like the tarot cards, or you might get in trouble!:rolleyes:

[Darkinfinity]

ROFL! Artas, let it be! And please don't use my name in posts! ;)

[Admin [DC]]

Gametrailers - suprisingly optimistic score - 6.6

The review itself is not so optimistic - "Belial - one of the worst heroes ever created in games history", "PK was mindless and fun, Od is just mindless".

hmmmm, I see on Gametrailers

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DESIGN 7.3
STORY 6.5
GAMEPLAY 5.8
PRESENTATION 6.7

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74 Votes
YOUR RATING
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not bad actually - especially the user rating, seems the average rating (ie metacritic) is mid 70's, wait till after the patch addresses some of the irritating or broken items then it'll be even better! Some things re Belail will be addressed, as well as gameplay issues/weapons, it'll all be good. Oh yeah, the MP aspect of the game will go under heavy upgrades/revisions soon thereafter as well.

[SOULTAKER]

Artas1984 wrote:


It seems you are talking about yourself. Yesterday you were the one that edited and deleted your own posts like this one:

NONSENSE!!! I did not edit my post nor do I retract that statement!!! :mad: Admin edited my post, please verify this Admin because Arty should know that he is incorrect in his assumption, and we all know that assumption is the mother of all *******. :D

Cheapmouth soultaker ;)

[maspingon]

Some things re Belail will be addressed, as well as gameplay issues/weapons, it'll all be good. Oh yeah, the MP aspect of the game will go under heavy upgrades/revisions soon thereafter as well.

So could you tell me why did you published, after 2 years since 1.64 patch, competely unplayable, unfinieshed and dumbed down MP? Painkiller MP was already done right, all you have to do was to make netcode better. Now, with this new (sorry) half-a$$ed, unbalanced weapons it's complete trash. And don't tell me it's old PK stuff, only looks different, cause it's not. What's worse- you removed PK symbol - no, not painkiller, a stakegun. Everyone who played PK for some time would tell you that there is nothing more precious then a stakegrande frag, this is one of the things which made PK unique.

My question is - why do you want to invest into a broken game? It would be better to make a patch with the stats and all that things you said for original PK.

Edit

And if you want to tell me it's because it's a new game. Well, it surely doesn't look like one.

[Admin [DC]]

All valid questions, unfortunately I am not in production department, were mistakes made, perhaps, but I and a few others are pushing to correct problems/concerns/shortcomings that the community has voiced concern over, unfortunately MP (which, since the beginning of PKOD development, in my opinion was the most important aspect for longevity and playability) was sidetracked...sometimes when trying to evolve something it doesn't quite work out perfectly. But there is an effort being made to make things better...

[maspingon]

That's good news


which, since the beginning of PKOD development, in my opinion was the most important aspect for longevity and playability


I don't understund this. I don't belive Mindware was even working on MP. All they did was removing all perfect balanced, kickass weapons from PK, and put this sily demons heads and broken swords in it's place. For 3 years Stakegun was primary weapon which you get at the respawn. Nobody ever changed it, tho there were some ideas. The reason is that there can't be other weapon for PK then stakegun, this game is to fast, modders left it in it's place to avoid spawnrapes. Now we have bonegun(omg, those names are really stupid) and no stakegun at all. Nice going, that's what you get when some guys want to make continuation of the MP aspect of the game they were never really playing. There is a lot to change in OD, from the scratch, if you want ppl to play it

[Admin [DC]]

of course selective quoting without recognizing the rest serves no one, like I stated...
unfortunately MP ... was sidetracked
constructive criticism is always welcome, you know what, I care about this game and am trying to make it better...

edit: MP wasn't focused on during dev....we are now shifting our focus to MP/community play.

[mask killer]

OK ---- What did :Di miss:eek::):eek:

[Admin [DC]]

Not much actually ;)

Hope everyone has a good holidays if you get time off or observe this holiday anyways...I'm trying to get some bots on the PKOD serves and will try playing on it over the next couple of weeks....if you guys have any other suggestions for DC/TAC online multiplayer games we can use on the server farm let me know what you think. thx

[[U2F]_TG]

Creatures:

Take a look at the "minotaur" - wtf is that?
The minotaurs in Hexen 2 Portal Of Praevus, a game that is 9 years older than Overdose, look more realistic.
Look at the faces of those crippled soldiers in wheelchairs - 2007?

Weapons:

The spinning cube is a remake of a Painkiller, just other design.
Bonegun works just like shotgun, just other design.
Rocket gun with and SMG type auto riffle - sad...
The crosbow - an alternative instead of boltgun and stakegun - worst weapon remake, actualy is not usefull to me at all.
The sword - he does things that have nothing to do with the definition of a sword itself. At least it could look liek a "bumerang".
The head - the eye laser is endless, with a huge ammount of ammo that leads to complete disballance, the scream is quite original though...
Acid gun - at least it sticks to the floor.


About movies - it's just a same picture of how the story develops - a book..

The crossbow is byfar my favorite weapon ...! Excellent remake..!

About the creatures..: You're right about the weelchair dude but ...
Did you even play the Animal Farm level..?
Brillant monster designs..! The pigbot and birdhouse monsters are absolutely great and unique designs!

[Martyns]

Creatures:

Take a look at the "minotaur" - wtf is that?
The minotaurs in Hexen 2 Portal Of Praevus, a game that is 9 years older than Overdose, look more realistic.
Look at the faces of those crippled soldiers in wheelchairs - 2007?

Weapons:

The spinning cube is a remake of a Painkiller, just other design.
Bonegun works just like shotgun, just other design.
Rocket gun with and SMG type auto riffle - sad...
The crosbow - an alternative instead of boltgun and stakegun - worst weapon remake, actualy is not usefull to me at all.
The sword - he does things that have nothing to do with the definition of a sword itself. At least it could look liek a "bumerang".
The head - the eye laser is endless, with a huge ammount of ammo that leads to complete disballance, the scream is quite original though...
Acid gun - at least it sticks to the floor.


About movies - it's just a same picture of how the story develops - a book..

What about those fire demons? They look just awesome. And those walking trees... Invisible men, plywood monsters (I don't know how to call them), demon arms, farmers with pitchforks - they all look good.

The Demon head is the quite unique weapon with very slow and almost invisible shot (secondary fire). The Sword's primary fire can track demons and the secondary one can kill multiple monsters. It's original, in my opinion. Ectoplasm can slow down monster, as far as I noticed (which is cool) and the Egg can stick to enemies. First four weapons are well made remakes (except Crossbow maybe) of what was best in the original PK, so they all are quite usefull, original and interesting.

[maspingon]

The Demon head is the quite unique weapon with very slow and almost invisible shot

I agree, it's unique. It's also most retarded weapon I can think of. Broken sword takes a secound place. Painkiller, really SPECIAL edition

[Darkinfinity]

I agree, it's unique. It's also most retarded weapon I can think of. Broken sword takes a secound place. Painkiller, really SPECIAL edition

You speak from retarded? :D

[[U2F]_TG]

I agree, it's unique. It's also most retarded weapon I can think of. Broken sword takes a secound place. Painkiller, really SPECIAL edition

Of coure all this comes from our very SPECIAL forum member maspingon.
nuff said..!

[maspingon]

_TG;221726']Of coure all this comes from our very SPECIAL forum member maspingon.
nuff said..!

Lol, who are you boy?