attn: n00b magic users

one of the complaints commonly heard on this game is that magic sucks.
well, just like any rpg, magic is pretty useless w/o a fighter complement early in the game, but I have gotten up to level 8, or so, gotten my skill up to 8, or so, and found/bought a bunch more spells, and the mage half of my character is starting to look a lot cooler.

just to offer you some hope.

you'll find a bunch more books in the faithien (or whatever) stronghold of ulm(?).
but, it's a quest --- so, don't just run over there.

use this thread for any magic ?'s you might have.

it seems you first need to spend almost 50% of your xp on Intelligence and the other half on spell ranks...

Now the whole problem with this is the fact the cost factor for spells is outrageous... Especially since the first level arcane spell shreiking star is useless. And add to that any duplicate items get dropped there goes a lot of the money you could use to buy those spells. One way around this is really a pain but leads to a few more gold pieces to spend. In Fargrove, near the temple, or gate to cemetary, stand on the wall, wait for monsters to spawn. Hope for goblins and grave robbers, kill'em pick up loot and run inside temple to sell of those items you don't need. Then go back out and repeat. I highly recommend clearing your inventory as much as possible...

Or you can use the flaming sword bug... but that is kinda crappy you have to cheat to be able to be a mage.

Use xp to gain as much skill in magic weapons and light weapons as well. The flaming staff quest you have to take to Wiccan is an awesome weapon early on. And as long as you don't deliver it to her she'll never miss it. But again this is contrary to spell caster profession... I was big AD&D fan and never seen a Wizard that was a grand master in short swords so he could use a magic staff. But again these schmucks get paid to much to think to little. So you get what we have here...

Yeah, the mage class seems to be the more powerful thing in the game later on. I had an awful time at the beggining but now I'm lvl 13 and have spells that kill every spawn with one blast, that's the nova type of magic. :D

I am playing the game the second time round and decided to go for the combination Adept/Mage/Enchantress/(Sorceror) which delivers some interesting possibilities for Magicusers.

Especially since the learning bonuses stack up. I therefore decided to start of the game with low magic skills and bump them up after reaching Enchantress, meanwhile I placed a lot in Intelligence pushing that up to 50 early on. Here is some progressions for my female elf (the previous skill level is noted in brackets):

------------Adept----------Adept&Mage-- Mage&Enchantress

Arcane (2)-------9600---------------3887----------2361
Celestial (3)------6998---------------6998----------3825
Magic Weapons (5)-22674-----------10041 ----------4447

Inspect (4)------12763---------------12763 ----------6261
Open Locks (3)---6400---------------6400 -----------3499
Disarm Traps (3)-12483---------------12483----------6681

When reaching the Status of Sorceror, my XP requirements should drop even further! This makes for some very powerful spellcasters if, you find enough Gold to be able to purchse your spells. Unfortunately that is my biggest problem.

thanks for the info --- I wish there were more explanations of the #'s side of it.

some links to magic and skills
http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords/magicskills.php
http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords/arcanemagic.php
http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlo...stialmagic.php
http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords/nethermagic.php
http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords/runemagic.php
this is helpful for skill info and class info
http://www.landofsnow.com/dungeonlords/

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Originally Posted by Zu'l Zorander

I am playing the game the second time round and decided to go for the combination Adept/Mage/Enchantress/(Sorceror) which delivers some interesting possibilities for Magicusers.

...makes for some very powerful spellcasters if, you find enough Gold to be able to purchse your spells. Unfortunately that is my biggest problem.

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Finding enough gold is, indeed, the problem for this class-path. Is there a usable trainer or character editor for version1.4? Having played though 4 times already, I just can't stand the idea of nether-katal trading for 5 hours straight (again) in order to create a decent spell inventory.

I don't know why everyone says they have such a prob with getting gold. Try the Naga Temple. You can load up on Burning staffs (they don't get dropped from your inventory) and naga pikes pretty quickly...probably some other stuff too. I was selling the burning staffs for around 2000 gp each and I would come out of the temple with about 15 at a time.

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Originally Posted by hefferex

I don't know why everyone says they have such a prob with getting gold. Try the Naga Temple. You can load up on Burning staffs (they don't get dropped from your inventory) and naga pikes pretty quickly...probably some other stuff too. I was selling the burning staffs for around 2000 gp each and I would come out of the temple with about 15 at a time.

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That's fine except that one highlevel adept crystal can cost 20k gold. I'd prefer not to do all that heavy lifting this time through the game if there is a character editor that will do the same job. I will if I have too...

Mental here (new so be kind), love yah comments on leveling up a pure mage; as it is im still trying to figure on weither to spend xp on the left hand side of the character screen or the right hand side. :confused:

Just a question tho, can a mage weild two staffs? as you said duel weilding mage with swords just doesnt feel right does it.. :)

oh o.k another question, does one have to level up the athletics skill to be able to roll forward n sideways etc.. as i cant seem to do that? :eek:

and ive just read that thread about cheating, i dont know about anyone else here but ive always kept a handy cheat or two as a last resort and still i only use it when im about realy to jump on the keyboard n cast my monitor into the pits of OBLIVIOn.. Mwhahahaha (manik mage luaghing)